• Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    14 hours ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the historians will read the entirety of the internet and come to the same conclusion about people today.

    If you don’t think so, suck my dick.

  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    14 hours ago

    Only if the fellater was a young non Roman slave or prostitute. Otherwise it was gay as hell and socially frowned upon.

    It was basically a form of pederasty.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      5·
      14 hours ago

      Much broader than that. Having sex with a Roman youth was extremely frowned upon, but slaves, non-Romans, and Roman infames were all considered acceptable partners. Even having sex with a Roman citizen was not considered wrong for the man doing the dominating, but was considered extremely emasculating for the citizen being topped. Age was not so much a matter of censure as taste; the Romans preferred younger men (and yes, teen boys), but older men who cultivated a young look were considered just as acceptable.

      The ultraconservative dictator Sulla, for example, retired to a Mediterranean island with his lifelong actor boytoy, Metrobius.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
    14·
    20 hours ago

    Of course.

    There is nothing more masculine than gay sex.

    It is literally Man²

    • bitchkat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      12 hours ago

      I think it was former Yankees catcher Thurmon Munson who said “I never feel more like a man, than when I’m wearing a dress.”

      (stolen from Mad or Cracked a long time ago)

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    19 hours ago

    I wonder if it was one of those things like having a jacked up pickup truck with lights all over it and loud exhaust. Yeah, some consider it “manly”, but most are like “Yeah, no…” but historians picked up the notes where people people liked getting blowjobs and now everyone in ancient Rome liked brojobs as a sign of manliness.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      4·
      15 hours ago

      Well, it’s a bit of a thing about Roman sexuality not lining up to modern ideas of sexuality. Essentially, ‘homosexual’ and ‘heterosexual’ were not widely recognized groupings. Instead, sexuality was largely figured on an ‘active’ vs. ‘passive’ dichotomy. Attraction to the same sex (at least for men - women were given less attention in this field) was not considered abnormal, nor was same-sex behavior. But which role you took in same-sex behavior was extremely important.

      In addition, it’s widely recognized that Roman men used sexuality as an expression of their own virility and power. While they could go overboard and receive censure (moderation was highly valued amongst the Romans), in general, a Roman man who ‘conquered’ a non-Roman (or very certain Romans - actors were considered acceptable partners) man was thought to be exercising an entirely normal and manly behavior.

      In that sense, it’s not so different than sexuality today (or at least, when I was a youth, I guess I’m pretty detached from ‘normal’ social circles anymore), wherein men are generally thought well of for high levels of sexual activity. The difference is that in that modern conception, only women would be praiseworthy for taking as a partner, whereas in the Roman conception, anyone you ‘top’ would be praiseworthy for taking as a partner (and conversely, anyone you ‘bottomed’ for, including a woman, would be emasculating).

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      15 hours ago

      We kinda already have modern examples. Pre-internet(wide spread), shows like Beverly Hills, 90210 gave foreigners the impression that everyone in the US acted that way. Yeah, sure, some Americans acted that way, but not many.

  • southsamuraiEnglish
    361·
    1 day ago

    Damn, looks like I should have taken all those blowjobs back when I was a bouncer. I guess not doing so is why I like wearing my wife’s panties so much

      • southsamuraiEnglish
        12·
        15 hours ago

        Many a time.

        Now, it helps to understand that I bounced at strip clubs and gay bars/clubs.

        At the one gay club I worked most at, I got offered head almost every night I worked. Being offered ass was a thing too, if not so often. The leather and cowboy gay bar wasn’t as common because most of the guys that would be into someone with my looks were looking for guys that dressed the style, but I’d get propositioned often enough to make me feel really positive about my looks.

        At the strip clubs, it wasn’t as common. That was almost always from the ladies working when it did happen, and it was usually offered to get me to ignore them doing something they weren’t supposed to do, like meth. So, not quite the nice offer the gay and bi guys, or bi women would make at the gay spots. Tbh though, at the gay places, I can count on one hand how many women offered, and I can’t even guess how many gents.

        But, there were a few of the ladies at the strip clubs that offered because I did my job and kept them safe. Which was nice of them, and I always appreciated the offer, but it would have been unethical, so even if I didn’t have a rule about not getting involved at work, I’d have turned it down because of the reasoning. Why would I want my dick sucked just for doing my job? It just seemed so skeevy to me. Not that I wasn’t tempted. And gods know I damn near accepted a few times, but I would have regretted it.

        But it was a really nice thing to experience, especially with the guys. I’m hetero, but it still felt nice back then to have really cute dudes interested. I eventually got to the point that my sense of self worth wasn’t tied to other’s approval of my appearance, but at the time it still mattered to me that I could interest attractive people.

        There was this one kid, just barely old enough to get in the door, that offered every time I was working. Which, I say kid, but at that point, I was only two years older than him. But he always seemed younger, even though I’d seen his ID plenty of times. He would call me big man, and say I ought to go home with him when the night was over. “Hey, big man, you gonna finally come home with me? You ain’t gotta fuck me, I’ll cut off the lights and go down on you.” It started off serious, he was into bears, but it turned into a running joke between us. Really nice guy, ended up married to a guy he met at that club, one of the drag performers.

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          5·
          15 hours ago

          Thank you for sharing a slice of your life kind stranger. You seem really nice, I’d give you a bj too but would never have the nerve to offer it to the bouncer of a place I want to frequent 😅 I’m sure not all of them would take it that kindly.