• DannyBoy
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    *in the United States. Canada has universal healthcare and has a limited sized military used for peacekeeping missions.

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      Thinking than any western military doing ‘peacekeeping’ missions is doing anything other than protecting capital of western companies from native populations they’re exploiting is naive.

    • Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Good thing there’s no inequality, growth imperative, or climate change in Canada - you guys really dodged that bullet! Thank the mounties for capitalism!

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      Thank you for bringing them to my attention, capitalist shilling is not (and will never) be allowed in this community. All offending comments have been removed and offenders given ten day temp bans

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    Those things will destroy none of those, though.

    • The oil industry will still be needed for lubrication and synthetics.

    • The insurance industry, well, for insuring everything beyond.

    • The weapon industry, because, as russia taught us again, if a nation gives up too many of their weapons (like Ukraine gave up their nukes for security assurances by russia, for example), neighbouring nations may attack them.

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      1. Both can be done more sustainably
      2. Insurance is only needed under a capitalist society where healthcare is not considered a basic human right
      3. There is a difference between producing weapons for defense and producing weapons for profit
      • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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        Concerning insurance, it is my opinion that any system that conceives of insurance as a solution to societal ills is a bad system. The existence of insurance actually increases inequity. (I’m agreeing with you, but this has been on my mind a lot lately since the events in NYC.)

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      Capitalism is literally enshrined greed and self interest. That’s never “fine”. It can have restrictions put on it to constrain just how much damage self interest can do, but there’s no way to make it not damaging

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          You don’t change people. You design systems that don’t allow for a snowball effect where inequity creates more inequity.

          Of course, that’s easier said than done and above my pay grade, but what I do know is that it doesn’t look like saying “celebrating excessive greed is good”

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            I disagree to a certain extent, people are naturally shaped by their environment and that environment can be changed. In my view greed is a natural response to fear, if we build a society where nobody has to fear poverty you can nearly eliminate greed as well. If eveyone has food to eat, a home to live in, acess to healthcare, and a strong community to support them, such a society would naturally build a strong moral standard for all who live within.

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              people are naturally shaped by their environment

              I agree. My comment wasn’t so much talking about people or even what the alternatives could look like. It was trying to point out the inherent flaw with the current system that ensures the equilibrium always shifts towards “more inequity”.

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      Communism could incentivize its governing political elite by being democratic, just like Marx wanted… Shame that the state capitalist dictatorships that have declared themselves communist are only really interested in desperately clinging to power

      And here in europe the golden hoards of the wealthy are still growing, just a thousand or so times slower