• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Sure, the recesses of Trump’s mind seem to be a pretty dark place. But the guy was already president and we all know that whatever happens next, it’s not going to look anything like Germany circa 1938. You know it, I know, we all all know it. America has strong institutions, Trump is fat and lazy, and most of his followers are not even “national conservatives” let alone fascists or (ridiculously) Nazis. They’re people who voted against inflation and immigration. In the meantime, by hystericizing the language like this, you’re simultaneously making fools of yourselves and alienating people who you might otherwise persuade.

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      10 hours ago

      Last time he had opposition inside his party. Powerful people who didn’t want to rock the boat, the 'old guard’s. He had a split supreme court. He had a pandemic that slowed and in many ways prevented his plans.

      Well, unfortunately, those old guard conservatives have largely been purged. The supreme court has been packed. And while pandemics are not entirely common, people have been lulled into a false sense of security and are unlikely to respond the same.

      I don’t expect us to lose our vote. But I do expect voter suppression to escalate dramatically.

      I don’t expect ethic cleansing, but I expect a lot of racial violence and escalating racial tensions.

      I don’t expect world war, but I do expect a massive erosion of global diplomacy and many minor conflicts.

      Most of the people who voted for him are largely brainwashed and uninformed or misinformed. Often times they’re scared or mistrusting rather than hateful.

      I don’t call them Nazi’s, and I sincerely hope we can bring many of them back into reality.

      But anyone who has paid attention to his rhetoric, his plans, his platform and still voted for it. Well there’s a word for people who supported the Nazi party in Germany but didn’t support the war or the ethnic cleansing. Nazis. They were called Nazis.

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        9 hours ago

        So you won’t call half of your fellow citizens Nazis, but they are, in fact, Nazis? Come on. And no, even Trump is not a Nazi, sorry. A quasi-proto-neo-fascist maybe, but not a Nazi. Deporting people who entered the country illegally is not “ethnic cleansing”, let’s be serious. Apart from tariffs and border security, Trump has no discernable beliefs, he just wants to people to suck up to him. Again: it’s ugly, but it’s not “Nazi”. You’re not being serious with language and I can tell from what you write that you know this already.

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          9 hours ago

          You continue to post responses to my evidence, but seem to refuse to engage with that evidence in any meaningful way.

          Further, your posts are becoming more and more pedantic, insulting, and condescending.

          I can tell you’re not invested in a respectful discussion, but rather in a platform for your ranting.

          I’ll leave you to it and won’t respond further.

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            9 hours ago

            I can tell you’re not invested in a respectful discussion

            Is downvoting someone for their opinion “respectful”. Personally, I don’t do that.