Just install one of 300 distributions of an unfamiliar operating system not designed specificallyfor you use case along with drivers for all the hardware (that you also have to learn about), learn to use the OS to the point you can actually use it, install custom software so you can install games, then hope the games work or don’t get updated with anti-cheat software that keeps you from playing.
Or just buy the “plays games” machine and play the games.
If you put Bazzite on there, it’s the “plays games” machine and plays the games. Now we’ve gotten rid of your choice paralysis. If you’ve ever used Steam Big Picture mode or a Steam Deck, it behaves exactly like that.
You’re asking a lot from the average non- computer person.
Things that are “just do this simple thing” for you are specifically what people don’t want to spend time fucking around with.
If you were buying a car with zero knowledge about cars and how they work, and the only purpose of the car was to get you from “a” to “b”, would you buy one that required you to install the engine and calibrate the timing yourself, or the one that you could get in and drive?
I think the rise of PC over console is showing that more and more people are finding it to be not that tough of a hill to climb. And reducing some hypothetical 300 distros down to 1 that’s easy is why that hill isn’t as big as you make it out to be.
The Steam Deck is a huge part of the rise, and it’s essentially a console. It’s a specific dedicated, known piece of hardware that can’t be meaningfully upgraded.
It launches into a custom OS designed for gaming using a launcher and game marketplace under the control of the manufacturer from which the manufacturer takes a 30% cut of all sales.
But that marketplace is also a PC gaming marketplace, so all its sales count as PC gaming growth.
It can, of course, run other software, but the dev mode on the Xbox lets it do the same thing. So if the deck isn’t a console, neither is the Xbox.
What nonsense. Yes, there are countless linux distributions, but of course the focus is still only on a few. These can be quickly narrowed down to how much you want to take care of the OS yourself. From arch linux to Bazitte/cachyos etc.
At distrowatch.com you can also browse through the top 10.
Drivers? out-of-the-box or with Nvidia 1-2 steps… even the biggest laymen can manage the changeover without any problems.
Software? Open the app store and install - done…
Anti-cheat would be no problem and what a coincidence that after steamdeck has brought so much growth under Linux, publishers have thought “remove check mark and disable support, leagues that it is due to linux etc pp” which has all been refuted. Well if MS … known for their market manipulating and criminal methods… didn’t let black bags wander… without games Windows would have disappeared on private computers a long time ago…
Console btw is a lie long time now… Preconfigured, extremely neutered and heavily DRM-infested PCs with no possibility of upgrading etc.
So what you’re saying is that people who aren’t interested in fucking around with Linux shouldn’t play games, even if they have absolutely zero interest in fucking around with Linux?
Let periods enjoy hobbies the way they want to. All that setup shit that’s easy for you isn’t easy for everyone, and learning more computer stuff isn’t something their interested in. They want to play a goddamned game, and they can unbox a Nintendo, plug in the game, power cable, and hdmi plug and be playing a game in less than 2 minutes.
That’s what they want. Their gaming hobby consists of playing the games. For many of us, all the setup and tinkering is part of the hobby, but we’re the outliers.
Again just Check top10 distros. There are distros with so easy GUI installation… with preinstalled packages like steam etc. So with Bazzite you have the console feeling… (Steam deck…) wanna change from desktop e.g. to the TV in the other room… Just stream it… steam link on mobile voilä the solution for people who don’t want to configure. Otherwise there is much more and also with automation…
Learning more computer stuff… ? so studying for console? Cause account creation enter anything with gamepad etc is way more… Oh your paid internet yea? anyway pls pay again or you can not play online…
I don’t care what you play with.
But as one lie after another comes from you about PC and linux it was clear that you want to put false words in my mouth too.
“Just pick one of the top 10 distros” is in itself greek to most people. You exist in a bubble where everyone knows what a linux distro even is. 90% of people do not. Your simple, overly-simplistic description of how to do Linux gaming can’t make it one sentence without losing normal people who just want to play a fucking game without having to learn anything new.
Oh, with consoles you don’t have to find out about backwards compatibility? Or whether the performance is sufficient with all the different versions within the same generation?
But all you can think of are the same nonsensical statements?
The ones with distrowatch are more likely to be people who are interested… the others are more likely to be referred to Bazitte or chachyoa in the steam forums and they use steam to play anyway (before the bullshit statement comes that would be too complicated for people). A friendly community that is willing to help is not a problem either… For consoles, have fun with the non-thinking kiddy’s filled with hate
Especially since you’re just trolling because you’ve been distorting the facts from the start anyway. Since I basically argued that you can do all that with the PC as well as with a console. In other words, it’s just as feasible. With you it immediately became something like I want to tell people what they should play with… No, that’s just you
You want to tell people what they should use instead of letting them decide for themselves… but your behavior shows wonderfully what you have to be prepared for… The one who is so frustrated by his bad purchase right from the start that he basically wants to goad people against the other options out of frustration without any arguments.
Yes, a PC can do more. That isn’t a positive for lots of people.
I have a small tractor with all kinds of implements. I can dig with the backhoe, grade with the box blade, cut grass with the mowing deck, clear brush with the bush hog, do all kinds of crap with the loader bucket, move brush with the forks, and much more.
I also have to know how to attach, maintain, and use all of those tools and the tractor itself if it’s going to be useful.
For someone wanting to just mow their lawn on their 1/4 acre of land, a push-mower is all they want or need.
For people who want a console, it’s ok and their choice anyway. But the justification because of the couch feeling and because it is kept so extremely simple (connect, update, play) is simply no longer up to date. Since there are linux distributions with which you can do this out of the box even without knowledge of OS and without knowledge of the tools.
The cheaper acquisition costs for hardware would be an argument, exclusive titles would be an argument or for someone with win PC + Xbox gamepass would be an argument (although it is precisely gamepass + alternatives that have negative long-term consequences for game development… Just like e.g. epic’s business method, but that’s a different topic)
So there are enough pros & cons on both sides. You have to stick to contemporary reasons. Especially since the (PC) SteamDeck has made it more than clear how suitable Linux is for gaming nowadays. If MS
and publishers would not put obstacles in the way as they have done for decades.
In the end, everyone should decide for themselves what they are happy with
Just install one of 300 distributions of an unfamiliar operating system not designed specificallyfor you use case along with drivers for all the hardware (that you also have to learn about), learn to use the OS to the point you can actually use it, install custom software so you can install games, then hope the games work or don’t get updated with anti-cheat software that keeps you from playing.
Or just buy the “plays games” machine and play the games.
If you put Bazzite on there, it’s the “plays games” machine and plays the games. Now we’ve gotten rid of your choice paralysis. If you’ve ever used Steam Big Picture mode or a Steam Deck, it behaves exactly like that.
You’re asking a lot from the average non- computer person.
Things that are “just do this simple thing” for you are specifically what people don’t want to spend time fucking around with.
If you were buying a car with zero knowledge about cars and how they work, and the only purpose of the car was to get you from “a” to “b”, would you buy one that required you to install the engine and calibrate the timing yourself, or the one that you could get in and drive?
I think the rise of PC over console is showing that more and more people are finding it to be not that tough of a hill to climb. And reducing some hypothetical 300 distros down to 1 that’s easy is why that hill isn’t as big as you make it out to be.
The Steam Deck is a huge part of the rise, and it’s essentially a console. It’s a specific dedicated, known piece of hardware that can’t be meaningfully upgraded.
It launches into a custom OS designed for gaming using a launcher and game marketplace under the control of the manufacturer from which the manufacturer takes a 30% cut of all sales.
But that marketplace is also a PC gaming marketplace, so all its sales count as PC gaming growth.
It can, of course, run other software, but the dev mode on the Xbox lets it do the same thing. So if the deck isn’t a console, neither is the Xbox.
What nonsense. Yes, there are countless linux distributions, but of course the focus is still only on a few. These can be quickly narrowed down to how much you want to take care of the OS yourself. From arch linux to Bazitte/cachyos etc. At distrowatch.com you can also browse through the top 10. Drivers? out-of-the-box or with Nvidia 1-2 steps… even the biggest laymen can manage the changeover without any problems.
Software? Open the app store and install - done… Anti-cheat would be no problem and what a coincidence that after steamdeck has brought so much growth under Linux, publishers have thought “remove check mark and disable support, leagues that it is due to linux etc pp” which has all been refuted. Well if MS … known for their market manipulating and criminal methods… didn’t let black bags wander… without games Windows would have disappeared on private computers a long time ago…
Console btw is a lie long time now… Preconfigured, extremely neutered and heavily DRM-infested PCs with no possibility of upgrading etc.
So what you’re saying is that people who aren’t interested in fucking around with Linux shouldn’t play games, even if they have absolutely zero interest in fucking around with Linux?
Let periods enjoy hobbies the way they want to. All that setup shit that’s easy for you isn’t easy for everyone, and learning more computer stuff isn’t something their interested in. They want to play a goddamned game, and they can unbox a Nintendo, plug in the game, power cable, and hdmi plug and be playing a game in less than 2 minutes.
That’s what they want. Their gaming hobby consists of playing the games. For many of us, all the setup and tinkering is part of the hobby, but we’re the outliers.
Again just Check top10 distros. There are distros with so easy GUI installation… with preinstalled packages like steam etc. So with Bazzite you have the console feeling… (Steam deck…) wanna change from desktop e.g. to the TV in the other room… Just stream it… steam link on mobile voilä the solution for people who don’t want to configure. Otherwise there is much more and also with automation… Learning more computer stuff… ? so studying for console? Cause account creation enter anything with gamepad etc is way more… Oh your paid internet yea? anyway pls pay again or you can not play online… I don’t care what you play with. But as one lie after another comes from you about PC and linux it was clear that you want to put false words in my mouth too.
“Just pick one of the top 10 distros” is in itself greek to most people. You exist in a bubble where everyone knows what a linux distro even is. 90% of people do not. Your simple, overly-simplistic description of how to do Linux gaming can’t make it one sentence without losing normal people who just want to play a fucking game without having to learn anything new.
Oh, with consoles you don’t have to find out about backwards compatibility? Or whether the performance is sufficient with all the different versions within the same generation? But all you can think of are the same nonsensical statements? The ones with distrowatch are more likely to be people who are interested… the others are more likely to be referred to Bazitte or chachyoa in the steam forums and they use steam to play anyway (before the bullshit statement comes that would be too complicated for people). A friendly community that is willing to help is not a problem either… For consoles, have fun with the non-thinking kiddy’s filled with hate Especially since you’re just trolling because you’ve been distorting the facts from the start anyway. Since I basically argued that you can do all that with the PC as well as with a console. In other words, it’s just as feasible. With you it immediately became something like I want to tell people what they should play with… No, that’s just you You want to tell people what they should use instead of letting them decide for themselves… but your behavior shows wonderfully what you have to be prepared for… The one who is so frustrated by his bad purchase right from the start that he basically wants to goad people against the other options out of frustration without any arguments.
Yes, a PC can do more. That isn’t a positive for lots of people.
I have a small tractor with all kinds of implements. I can dig with the backhoe, grade with the box blade, cut grass with the mowing deck, clear brush with the bush hog, do all kinds of crap with the loader bucket, move brush with the forks, and much more.
I also have to know how to attach, maintain, and use all of those tools and the tractor itself if it’s going to be useful.
For someone wanting to just mow their lawn on their 1/4 acre of land, a push-mower is all they want or need.
For people who want a console, it’s ok and their choice anyway. But the justification because of the couch feeling and because it is kept so extremely simple (connect, update, play) is simply no longer up to date. Since there are linux distributions with which you can do this out of the box even without knowledge of OS and without knowledge of the tools. The cheaper acquisition costs for hardware would be an argument, exclusive titles would be an argument or for someone with win PC + Xbox gamepass would be an argument (although it is precisely gamepass + alternatives that have negative long-term consequences for game development… Just like e.g. epic’s business method, but that’s a different topic) So there are enough pros & cons on both sides. You have to stick to contemporary reasons. Especially since the (PC) SteamDeck has made it more than clear how suitable Linux is for gaming nowadays. If MS and publishers would not put obstacles in the way as they have done for decades. In the end, everyone should decide for themselves what they are happy with