• HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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    Dude gets mad everytime someone points out he is defending rape. Can’t complain to the mods of the community because he’s the only one. We should contact the admins so that something can get done.

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      Unfortunately, these words don’t carry as much weight when people say the law is what determines whether or not someone was raped.

      If this exact same thing occurred in a jurisdiction that allows it, would you all still be saying he couldn’t give consent? Those jurisdictions exist, you know.

      Maybe you people shouldn’t use the law as a panacea only when it supports your case.

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        If this exact same thing occurred in a jurisdiction that allows it, would you all still be saying he couldn’t give consent?

        Absofuckinglutely

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        Dude gets mad everytime someone points out he is defending rape. Can’t complain to the mods of the community because he’s the only one. We should contact the admins so that something can get done.

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        So if this was a male teacher and a female student you’d be acting the same.

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    I wonder if the student will come to regret this later if he hasn’t already.

    If not, would it be fair to say this is a victimless crime?

    I know a lot of people who are disconnected from/afraid of reality don’t want to ask or answer questions like these, but it’s important to keep in mind that we don’t speak for or make decisions for everyone else.

    Personally, I look back at my youth and think I would’ve been a lot happier if I had sex earlier rather than later, even if it was with one of my hot teachers (which I had quite a few of!) It took me so long to find acceptance that I now have plenty of dangerous mental health issues because of it, issues that my peers who had sex before it was legal certainly do not have to deal with.

    I hope this lad can see things for what they are, and not what other people want him to see to fulfill their agenda.

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      I wonder if the student will come to regret this later if he hasn’t already.

      I don’t doubt he regrets getting raped, yes.

      If not, would it be fair to say this is a victimless crime?

      No, Child rape is child rape. That’s like saying “I crawled into someones house last night and tortured them, but they say they didnt regret it, so its a victimless crime”

      Don’t apologize for childhood rape!

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      Dude gets mad everytime someone points out he is defending rape. Can’t complain to the mods of the community because he’s the only one. We should contact the admins so that something can get done.

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      Would you also argue the same way, if it was a male teacher with a girl student?

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          So your a troll because it is exactly the same thing.

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            Dude, you are really upset about this.

            I’m going to have to block you because you’re replying to literally everything I’m saying.

            Goodbye.

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              Dude gets mad everytime someone points out he is defending rape. Can’t complain to the mods of the community because he’s the only one. We should contact the admins so that something can get done.

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            Males and females are different.

            Males are way less likely to regret having sex before the law says they’re allowed to. (you know, when their brains are fully developed and they can look back on their actions) With females, it’s the opposite.

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              Isn’t this just a social construct?

              Looking back at my youth, all the girls were much earlier “developed” and were interested in relationships and sex, while I was happy with some comic series

              So following that, wouldn’t a girl be much more intellectually developed for sex than a boy at younger age?

              Also, my girlfriend had sex much younger than me, because I was happy with my computer and stuff.
              Of course this doesn’t mean shit in such a small test group, but all the girls my age were always interested in older boys and not boys the same age.

              So aren’t girls more advanced in that regard than boys?
              I feel like this woman was stealing his childhood - like in pretty much every rape case.

              And you even admit, that their brains at that age isn’t fully developed. How should an equal sexual relationship with an adult work out?
              Disregarding the gender in this case

              I think, you’re only looking on social customs and not really on biological differences at that age

              Edit: ah, and I forgot to add:
              How would be the situation if the boy would have had sex with an 34 year old guy?
              Would you see it the same way, because the boy made up his decision to let someone fuck his ass?

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      It’s reape teacher has power over student. Ok now ask yourself if sexes where reversed is this a victimless crime. For some reason Americans think cool female teacher with male child that is fine. But a male teacher with a female student throw the book at them. It is the same fucking thing.

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        It’s reape teacher has power over student.

        Whether or not someone is raped is based on consent, which is why people are so adamant about the law determining who can and cannot give consent. The law isn’t a consistent indicator of rape, because there are jurisdictions where this “same fucking thing” would be legal.

        It is the same fucking thing.

        According to who or what?

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      If not, would it be fair to say this is a victimless crime?

      No, it would not be fair to call the rape of a child from the ages of 11 to 13 a victimless crime. That would be ridiculous.

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          Yes a child cannot give consent to sex to a adult. If 2 preteens want to bone go at it.

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            If 2 preteens want to bone go at it.

            This is still illegal in many jurisdictions.

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          A child that young is literally unable to consent. They don’t have the mental capacity to understand whether they are doing it voluntarily or being coerced.

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            They don’t have the mental capacity to understand whether they are doing it voluntarily or being coerced.

            This applies to many adults, as well.

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          An 11 year old child cannot give consent to sexual actions in the eyes of the law. That’s literally what the age of consent is about. In most Western countries this age is 16 and nobody younger than this can legally consent to sex with an adult.

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            What if he was in a jurisdiction where it was legal for him to have sex?

            Then would he be able to consent to it?

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              I’d say that any jurisdiction that allows an adult to have sex with a child needs a change on its laws.

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      … Are you seriously trying to say that a kid being raped by someone who is supposed to be a guardian is a victimless crime? Do you even fuckin hear yourself?

      Please tell me this is a troll trying to bait people or something. If it’s not a troll post you seriously need to seek help.

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        I know a lot of people who are disconnected from/afraid of reality don’t want to ask or answer questions like these

        Never fails.

        Gonna ignore you now.

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          You’re a disgusting twisted individual. I hope you take a step back and reevaluate how you view the world. You think that because you weren’t raped by a “hot teacher” when you were barely even a teenager that your life was worse???

          Someone needs to investigate your hard drive.

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      What happened in your youth and how you look at that now is speculative and anecdotal.

      If anything I’d say there are 2 victims, the kid she raped and the kid she birthed that won’t have an adult father and won’t have a (free) mother that can care for them.

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        You think he’s still a victim even if he doesn’t regret it for the rest of his life?

        Is there any point where he gets to speak for himself on the matter, even if he disagrees with you?

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          So according to your own words child pornography is ok if the child in the pictures said it’s allowed. Adults can have sex with any age of child as long as they don’t regret it. This was an eleven year old child and you think they can give consent to an adult for sex.

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          He was a child raped by an adult in a position of trust. He is a rape victim, because he could not provide free, informed consent.

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            He is a rape victim, because he could not provide free, informed consent.

            Why not?

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                When do you think he would be capable of providing consent?

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                  When he becomes an adult. Regardless of how he feels about the situation when he becomes an adult, it’s still rape.

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      You seem to have some warped sense of justice, based on the gender of the victim. What would you say if a 34 year old male teacher started having sex with an 11 year old girl and got her pregnant at 13? Both children would be the victim of sexual abuse by adults, the genders of anyone involved don’t matter one bit.

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      Are you trying to say that the rape of a minor could have been a good thing?

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        If not, would it be fair to say this is a victimless crime?

        Did you miss this part?

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          No, but it is a crime with a victim. And it is well defined as well.

          Congratulations, you’ve defended pedophilia and pedophiles.

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            Lol, I can tell you’re getting upset about this so I’m just gonna block you.

            No room for dysfunctional discussions like these where you’re only saying what sounds nice in your head, regardless of what the other person is saying.

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              Dude, the teacher is a pedophile and you are asking if her actions were good. That’s defending pedophilia.

              Edit: if you are having issues with how that would work, switch the genders of the adult and child and then see how you feel.

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              I’m just gonna block you No room for dysfunctional discussions

              Hmm, pretty sure this is not the way to have a functional discussion.

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                Right. There’s no discussion to be had because he’s not arguing in good faith.

                The only solution is to block him and move on. Hopefully you’ll understand this when you’re older.

                In all honesty though, you’re just getting mad at me because I blocked someone that agreed with you. It’s sad you’re not genuine enough to admit it so I have to admit it for you.

                Probably going to block you too, but let’s see how you respond to this.