• snooggums@lemmy.world
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    If not, would it be fair to say this is a victimless crime?

    No, it would not be fair to call the rape of a child from the ages of 11 to 13 a victimless crime. That would be ridiculous.

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        Yes a child cannot give consent to sex to a adult. If 2 preteens want to bone go at it.

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          If 2 preteens want to bone go at it.

          This is still illegal in many jurisdictions.

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        A child that young is literally unable to consent. They don’t have the mental capacity to understand whether they are doing it voluntarily or being coerced.

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          They don’t have the mental capacity to understand whether they are doing it voluntarily or being coerced.

          This applies to many adults, as well.

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            Tell me you don’t understand brain development without telling me you don’t understand brain development.

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              So, it’s not “mental capacity” but “brain development”?

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                  Yes, but what does that have to do with mental capacity and consent? That’s what you original posited, before I mentioned adults without the “mental capacity to understand whether they are doing it voluntarily or being coerced.”

                  You kind of just ignored that and pivoted to something else.

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                    Brain development is the process of reaching mental capacity. Until someone reaches an age where their brain has developed enough they don’t have the mental capacity to make certain decisions like consenting to sex. Some people’s brain development doesn’t work right and they don’t reach that mental capacity or they have an injury that causes them to lose that capacity, but at no point is a 13 year old’s brain developed enough to have the mental capacity to consent to sex.

                    I was just summarizing the obvious thing that has been pointed out multiple times. I doubt it will sink in this time either.

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        An 11 year old child cannot give consent to sexual actions in the eyes of the law. That’s literally what the age of consent is about. In most Western countries this age is 16 and nobody younger than this can legally consent to sex with an adult.

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          What if he was in a jurisdiction where it was legal for him to have sex?

          Then would he be able to consent to it?

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            I’d say that any jurisdiction that allows an adult to have sex with a child needs a change on its laws.