• IrateAnteater
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    9 hours ago

    No, no, no, don’t you understand? This is the Democrats’ fault for not running someone old, white, and male likeable enough.

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      5 hours ago

      Let’s be clear, while this is all definitely Trump’s fault it wasn’t not being an old, white male that did her in. She was aggressively centre-right and when people want change, when we can all see that the whole world needs change, running on “slightly less garbage and slowly moving in the right direction eventually maybe” is not very energizing.

      That whole country is a massive dumpster fire that had to choose between a spray bottle or a can of gasoline to put it out.

      Edit: I should clarify that the population should have still voted against Trump(note the wording there) and that it’s shameful that so many of them voted for him. What I’m responding to is the fact that people didn’t avoid Kamala because she was a woman or of a darker complexion and I don’t think we can blame old racists for this one.

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        7 hours ago

        This is the take that frustrates me the most. “Since the candidate wasn’t perfect (by my definition of perfect, which of course is exactly the same as everyone else’s definition) it’s their fault that I stayed home”.

        The election is always about damage control. You pick the least worst candidate, since those are the only options available. You want something different, you have to have your shit together before the primaries start. Instead, people do nothing for four years, then act all shocked and offended when nothing changes at election time.

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          5 hours ago

          I hate it, too, that wasn’t my intention with the response and I added an edit.

          But yes, it fucking sucks that the country constantly has such awful choices.

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        7 hours ago

        This is an idiotic take. She isn’t left leaning enough, so let’s burn the fucking place to the ground. Yeah, makes sense.

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          7 hours ago

          No, I expected someone to be an actual change candidate after they finally convinced Biden to drop out.

          Instead they just replaced Biden with a lady-Biden.

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            7 hours ago

            Bwahahahaha.

            So you expect two change candidates, one from the Republicans and one from the Democrats and you expect the mysterious Democrat to have run a better change campaign than Trump?

            Trump is 100% about change and destroying norms. No one can out-change Trump. That’s a losing battle politically.

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              Do you think “change” is the only important thing there? People want good change, and many know what that looks like. They didn’t have to compete against Trump’s marketting of the same concept, they just needed to finally grow a spine and do the things people have been pleading for for years.

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                It’s a two party system and the Democrats were somewhat in charge (Senate and Presidency).

                Admitting to being the change strategy is the same as saying Democrats have failed.

                The incumbent cannot run on change. The incumbent runs on status quo. You can run on change for 2026 and 2028.

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                  4 hours ago

                  They did fail, obviously, in large part because they took too long to ditch the incumbent and didn’t do enough to distance their new candidate from him.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Name a time in all of US History where the party in charge ditched the incumbent and still won the election.

                    Go on. History is on my side on this matter. The election was lost the moment y’all ditched Biden and gave up on your best chance.