I completely agree with you. This could be done at the OS level if everybody would agree on a common API. This what I’m trying to explain here, the concept of a unified UX experience is a net positive for the users, and it doesn’t need to be implemented as an app. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.
@yogthos Windows 8 made a legitimate effort to provide unified OS-level APIs that apps could hook into and deeply integrate with. The “People Hub” was easily the best example of this, plus Charms, Settings integration, etc.
Everyone hated it because they didn’t understand it.
@yogthos Building walled gardens apps where you control everything is easier than building a walled garden OS where you control everything.
One is an App and the other is an OS, but both can be turned into a “walled garden trap” for consumers.
“But they did it” isn’t an excuse to do it more. We have enough of this going around already with Apple and X and WeChat, governments and tech bros trying to maintain control over the masses. Nah.
I don’t see the OS providing a unified UI that allows people to write apps as services as a problem. I’m likewise confused about what you’re actually try to say here. You’re conflating your ideological stance with technical functionality as far as I can tell. It’s perfectly possible for an open platform to do the same things WeChat does, and that would result in a much better user experience than the current approach. I don’t know why it’s so hard for you to grasp this.
I completely agree with you. This could be done at the OS level if everybody would agree on a common API. This what I’m trying to explain here, the concept of a unified UX experience is a net positive for the users, and it doesn’t need to be implemented as an app. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.
@yogthos Windows 8 made a legitimate effort to provide unified OS-level APIs that apps could hook into and deeply integrate with. The “People Hub” was easily the best example of this, plus Charms, Settings integration, etc.
Everyone hated it because they didn’t understand it.
Meanwhile, WeChat managed to do it in a way that everybody loves.
@yogthos Doing inside an app is easier and significantly more of a power-grab.
I’m not sure why its easier, and don’t see how it’s more of a power grab than what Google and Apple already do with their platforms.
@yogthos Building walled gardens apps where you control everything is easier than building a walled garden OS where you control everything.
One is an App and the other is an OS, but both can be turned into a “walled garden trap” for consumers.
“But they did it” isn’t an excuse to do it more. We have enough of this going around already with Apple and X and WeChat, governments and tech bros trying to maintain control over the masses. Nah.
Both Android and iOS are very much a walled gardens last I checked.
@yogthos Right so are you saying we should make the problem bigger?? I’m confused what you’re trying to say here
I don’t see the OS providing a unified UI that allows people to write apps as services as a problem. I’m likewise confused about what you’re actually try to say here. You’re conflating your ideological stance with technical functionality as far as I can tell. It’s perfectly possible for an open platform to do the same things WeChat does, and that would result in a much better user experience than the current approach. I don’t know why it’s so hard for you to grasp this.