• Agent Karyo@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I can’t imagine many people who haven’t tried Final Fantasy are going to play this. This seems like a game for super fans only.

    FWIW, the last FF game I tried was FF7 in the early 2000s. Bounced off of it in ~40 minutes. I had only played cRPGs and I never really tried any JRPGs (nothing wrong with them, they just not for me).

    That being said, I am actually considering trying the original FF7 with mods one of these days.

    • TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I’ll start with a caveat that I’m a huge FF7 fan.

      Remake was cool, but plagued with pacing problems. The biggest issue was they had to make everything sort of from scratch, and so a ton of development time was put into the “fixed costs” of things. The result was a cool, but extremely padded game. It really is maybe 15% of the content of the original, but stretched out.

      Rebirth covers SO much more. Like holy shit it is maybe 10x the game that Remake is, and there’s good quality content. There’s the usual side quests, but they are, in fact, side quests. If you don’t want to do the fetch quest things they talk about, you can skip over the vast majority. I didn’t like that critique… If a game has optional content you find boring, it’s hard to knock the game for it.

      But the visuals in this game are dazzling. I thought the map was huge and vast, and had so many different environments… And then realized there were 5 or 6 completely unique areas like that. It’s a real marvel to go through the different landscapes.

      Story wise, I think they did an excellent job, provided you did play the original. It’s hard to get around that part, but it’s sort of a price of admission for a sequel game. But they cleaned up SOOOO many issues with the original game. Things are explained so much more clearly, that I think people forget how incoherent the original story was. There was a lot of hand waving and completely unexplained sides. This game really brings them all into focus. They added a pretty hefty amount of story as well, and I thought it was for the better.

      There are some knocks I agree with… The Cait Sith sections are a bit brutal, but luckily they’re infrequent. The combat is super fun - again I think I disagree with the author on this… There’s so many shortcuts you can set to not have to go through menus. I rarely found myself in the situations they talked about, but to each their own.

      The game is not perfect, and not for everyone. But I thought the voice acting and story elements were great. They found a reasonable way to be really goofy and funny at times, while also maintaining a more serious tone when needed.

      I massively enjoyed it, and thought it was a great 2nd addition. Like all middle parts of a trilogy, I could completely sour on a lot of them if they don’t bring it home. Part 2 sets up a lot, pays off a small amount, but they’re really setting up for a massive ending. If they execute, both games will be seen as massive achievements, in my eyes. Though I think most of the criticisms of Remake are well warranted.

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      24 hours ago

      I played the original one in '98 or '99, but never beat it. Went back to it later in my late 20s or early 30s and was even more frustrated by the camera and controls as well as some other things. I basically never played the non-MMO titles that followed due to a combination of being poor/busy and just not liking 7. Getting into MMOs and having loved the first handful of FF games was the only reason I was convinced to try those. There’s zero chance I’m buying the 7 remake.

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        15 hours ago

        and was even more frustrated by the camera

        Do you mean in the world map? Because that’s the only place that lets you control the camera. The game is mostly 2D backgrounds with 3D characters.

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          14 hours ago

          I meant how my characters might moved and be obfuscated by things between them and the camera. I can’t recall exactly. I think there was a crater and I kept getting annoyed because I’d press one direction on my controller to go to somewhere that looked accessible, and then end up not being able to. Camera was probably a poor choice of wording.

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            12 hours ago

            Got it. I also remember having the same problem at first back then now that you mention it. One thing that helped was pressing select, it would put arrows on every possible exit and a big finger on you.