• Uncut_Lemon@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    This won’t happen, there is a lot of industrial software that digs it’s fingers deep into windows subsystems that wine does not support. Even popular commercial, like adobe, cannot run on wine correctly

    At this point I’m not even sure Microsoft knows how some of those sub systems work, they just migrating ancient code bases and patching it enough to make it work again on the new compilers.

    So windows kernel will exist untill everyone else leaves.

    Move your workflow away from windows, if you can, as Microsoft doesn’t care enough about their userbase.

    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      a lot of industrial software that digs it’s fingers deep into windows subsystems that wine does not support. Even popular commercial, like adobe, cannot run on wine correctly

      I’d be more inclined to believe that these things are so difficult (nearly impossible) to get to work under wine due to some eldritch connection deep into the bowels of windows subsystems so old that current devs don’t even know what they do… IF it weren’t for the fact that a lot of them have fully functioning MacOS versions out there running. Maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist, but I fully believe a LOT of these big commercial software companies are ACTIVELY working to fight their own software being compatible with Wine - actively spending time, money, and effort to block Linux compatibility (completely negating the usual answer of “it’s too expensive to support Linux when so few customers use Linux”).

    • highball@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Naa, I was a Windows kernel dev for Intel a decade ago. We had guys that knew different parts of the kernel. Microsoft engineers know the kernel well. They have to, they have engineers from different companies fixing bugs and making changes. I had my contact for the parts of the kernel I was responsible for and other engineers had their contacts. You have to think, some of these engineers at Intel have been working on the same subsystem for twenty+ years.

      So windows kernel will exist until everyone else leaves.

      Yeah, that’s what he is eluding to. Microsoft keeps adding to Azure Linux. One day, there will be a Windows user land for Linux, i.e. Win/Linux instead of GNU/Linux. It will be much cheaper to run a Win/Linux distro in the cloud than full Windows. Most users just use the browser anyways. Anybody that actually needs a program not supported by the Win/Linux distro can fall back to the full Windows. Eventually everything will be supported on Win/Linux. Plus, WoW64 is already a translation layer for 32bit Windows applications and there are others and have been others over the years. A translation layer to run legacy Windows software would be nothing new for Microsoft.

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      3 days ago

      This is why there’s still Windows XP running major systems.

      Windows kept changing anyway so maybe it’s possible that’ll still happen and people just get left with legacy OSs