• shoulderoforion@fedia.io
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    well, leftists/ squad progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala, so they didn’t vote. with literally everything at stake, having already lost things like federally protected safe abortion access. you know who did turn out, young people, arab americans, and latino americans who voted for trump, think that made up ~ 2.3% and the differece between the young people who didn’t vote democrat and the “new republicans” tilted the balance in the swing states? nah, probably not, right. do they call that a phyrric victory? no that’s egyptian. anyway, congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year, chanting “from the river to the sea”. i wonder if that scared the bezeezus outta just middle america or all of it. nah, probably had nothing to do with it. anyway, enjoy your victory over “genocide joe” (kamala) folks

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      i marched and everyone i talked to in person was adamant that their goal was to shift kamala left, not to shift the election toward trump. i get your anger about the election, but don’t let the terminally online color what those protestors really wanted. they’re also now the most organized resistance against trump. they’re still working, even under threat of violence from the national guard. they’re heroes, not villains

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        That is good to hear, USA needs an up to date constitution, like a complete refactoring

        I don’t see blue nor red changing the political landscape or even a tiny bit in the constitution, so it has to be the people, I fear.

        There must be a way for the people of USA to vote for a change in constitution, here in switzerland, it is called an initiative. If enough people sign to approve that initiative, there will be a nation wide vote, where the majority of the people and the majority of the cantons (states) approves this initiative.

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        Yeah, fuck the terminally online twats who pushed ‘both sides are the same’, but anti-genocide protesters were not inherently contributors to the outcome we received. They were a voice of conscience to a nation that was still not ready to heed it. Unfortunately.

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        The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

        The consequences were known, and they’ve arrived

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            Me too. Thanks Democrats for having that primary instead of anointing the unpopular President’s VP.

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              It was her turn though. Man the butt hurt crying when I suggested she was Hillary 2.0. bans and slurs I was a Russian or right winger. I will tell you this it doesn’t feel good to be right, I’m too old for this shit. On the other hand dems are still clueless why they lost.

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                Yeah… being a rational critical thinker is isolating. It’s always interesting though, especially when Democrats call you a Nazi for not agreeing with them, ban you & tell you they hope you get your head caved in. I wonder if they’ll ever take responsibility for their own actions, or if we’ll always just be Russian Nazi bots to them.

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                  Duudes! Exactly that thinking is the demise of USA. It is not just us and them, there is not just black and white, not all democrats are the same, not all republicans are the same, not all of those people should be in the same party with such different views.

                  No wonder you get just extremists in your political system…

                  Split those fucking parties, best each in about 10 pieces.

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      well, progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala

      Bullshit. “Progressives” did no such thing. Progressives are the most loyal and reliable voting base in American politics, with even more consistency than “Bible and flag” conservatives. Progressives also make up the bulk of grassroots Democratic activism and do most of the volunteer work for Democratic candidates. That is despite being shit on constantly, just like you are doing now. Democrats don’t deserve progressive votes, but they have them.

      congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year…

      Maybe Joe and Kamala shouldn’t have been supporting a genocide in “an election year”. It’s funny how you baselessly blame progressives while putting no blame whatsoever on the candidates themselves! It’s so incredibly fucked that Biden thought he could run again and that Kamala didn’t even seek the appearance of being democratically nominated. We lost to Trump because of gross incompetence on the part of Democratic leadership.