After a volunteer confirmed an officer’s identity, they would alert neighbors to the agent’s presence, and our dispatch team would send a text message to our contacts in the area. ICE agents almost never carry judicial warrants giving them the authority to enter private homes or businesses without permission, so they often wait to make an arrest when the person they’re looking for leaves their home or car. And in every case we worked on, when the agents realized they were being watched, they abandoned their stakeout.

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    Harboring – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who – knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

    By all means text each other about it. No way they can find out about that.

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      Obv Signal with disappearing messages… You’re still only as strong as weakest link but it’s better than WhatsApp or ISP exposed sms. Element better but also harder to set up or get regular neighbors to adopt.

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          Yeah well you can use better settings and/or third party keyboards/graphine/vpn/etc but you’re not going to get most people who don’t understand threat modelling to see those as valuable.

          Accessible tools to make things at least a little obfuscated goes farther than just handing data over willingly, and we have to meet people where they are. Education requires interest in a topic. Start easy and work up as they see the value.

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      By all means text each other about it. No way they can find out about that.

      That’s a great point. It’s worth going old school in this case for signalling. Word of mouth, visual signals, auditory signals, etc. that are seemingly arbitrary would be a good, though local, way of giving immediate signs.

      However, it’s not illegal to monitor and publish that online. If you have the ability, it’s pretty easy to set up a website that has information on their movements. If editing privileges are restricted, you can make a good source of information that is the equivalent of a board saying “ICE reported in the area.” That’s just off of my head, though, so please feel free to poke holes and refine.

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      There’s reasons to alert your neighbors that aren’t related to harboring, you know.

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      By all means text each other about it. No way they can find out about that.

      You’re saying this sarcastically, right?

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          I don’t know the age of the person you are replying to, but I have noticed that Gen Z in general does not understand sarcasm on the internet the way that Millennials and Gen X do. Maybe not enough in-person communication? I don’t know. It will probably be studied a few years down the line.

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            Dude, we live in a time wherein Russia managed to destroy America from within via lies on social media. “Just text people about it, they can’t track that” could be someone who genuinely doesn’t know how easy it is to track SMS, or it could be a psyop to try and get people to organise with poor opsec, or it could be sarcasm - there’s quite literally no way to tell. If you have a foolproof method, I’m all ears.

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                Why do you think that? You implied I’m a child because I didn’t get they were being sarcastic, didn’t you? I wasn’t trying to put any emotion into what I wrote, if you read that into it; just pointing out that it’s not unreasonable to miss sarcasm in writing on the Internet nowadays.

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          Provide me a method to distinguish your sarcastic statement from one out of someone who genuinely doesn’t know how easily SMS can be tracked, or a troll, or disinformation, and then I’ll accept your “of course”. As far as I’m aware there’s no way to be sure without asking; relying on a statements ridiculousness to reveal it as sarcasm is a losing strategy in the post-truth world.