A new report finds 24 states have yet to establish an “energy efficiency resource standard," which has been shown to curb demand, lower costs and reduce emissions.

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    Guess we’ll know which 24 because the article didn’t do the due diligence for a graph, a list, a graphic, anything.

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    Ohio’s Republican supermajority handed the utility companies a really big win, causing energy prices to skyrocket for much if the state, in a massive bribery scandal.

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    They won’t need to bother with that for 4 more years, either.

    Edit: 4 more years minimum.

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    In California they have raised our rates 6 times. We reduce they increase.

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        All the PGE customers are forced to bear the costs associated with losses from fires caused by PGE in rural areas. If each city formed a municipal utility company, our prices would all be in line with SMUD since we’d only pay for the risks associated with ourselves. I’m guessing energy prices in the foothills would absolutely skyrocket. But I’d rather have cheaper power for myself.

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    The US has had flat energy use for over a decade now. Which is great as far as emissions go, but honestly is extremely bad as far as civilization goes. Separate from energy prices or emissions, overall usage is a measure of overall activity. If our usage is dropping while population increases, then we’re dying as a civilization.

    An improving situation would be increasing usage, with decreasing carbon emissions.

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      Decades ago (half a century ago) people believed energy production and usage was directly tied to growth. If your energy wasn’t growing, neither was your economy. If your energy per person started shrinking, that’s an oh shit moment …. Or so people believed back then.

      Then the last half century happened. Energy production plateaued , yet economic growth continued. Per person energy usage decreased yet the economy did well a lot of the time

      It turns out that correlation may have appeared in a manufacturing economy, but it’s not at all correlated when you have huge efficiency gains while also transitioning to more of a service economy

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      Yes, if lightbulbs went from 60W to 7W it totally makes sense for me to put 20 of them. /s

      Dumbest argument ever.

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        If you save a dollar a month on electricity, you save it, that means your savings rate goes up, and banks do more lending, businesses expand due to cheaper finances.

        Use more than one brain cell, that one is tired.

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      Can you provide a source for your flat energy use argument?

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        Google “<country name> total energy consumption” and pick your source. There’s literally hundreds. It’s an overall trend in most Western countries. Coal usage has dropped globally, renewable is up everywhere, which is all great and hopefully continues. Overall though, power consumption has stopped increasing 15 to 20 years ago.

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      Nonsense. Some things have become more efficient - like swapping 60W incandescent bulbs for 9W LEDs.

      Civilization isn’t dying 🤣

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        Efficiency is great, but should make energy cheaper, leading to more usage. Again especially with a growing population. Dropping energy usage means costs increased despite efficiency, or they decreased and there was no productive capacity to put that energy to use. Either way it’s bad for the country.

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          Efficiency should not lead to more usage but to often it does. The example above shows that at a time we should have seen massive dips in usage as you say it just sorta leveled off which would indicate quite and increase in use. Lighting after all is one of the bigger eletric usages. Or I know it was in the time of filament bulbs.

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            Efficiency lowers demand, which lowers prices, which should create opportunity for expansion and higher demand. Except prices have been rising, profits have been rising, and real energy investment has been flat. And you can see it across the entire western economy, not just the US. It’s great that we’ve been moving to clean energy, the problem is that we’re doing less over all as a civilization.

            Think of it this way, fusion power is about to be an actual thing, making cheap clean energy on tap for the planet. And we’re just going to sit and watch it glow, because no one can figure out what to do with limitless energy.

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              oh man. firstly using energy for energy usage sake is again a pattern but its generally due to waste and human nature. Laziness and indulgence. Secondly fusion is not about to be an actual thing. Thirdly when fusion becomes an actual thing it is not limitless energy. There are a whole bunch of limitations around the technology the will have cost. Very much the way fission was not limitless energy and its not because fissionable material is scarce its due to all the associated costs around fission. Even block hole energy won’t be free limitless energy.

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                Ok, try aluminum. Used to be super rare, rarely used. Now you can’t throw a cat without hitting some. Production efficiency went through the roof, price dropped like a rock, and suddenly there’s aluminum things everywhere. Efficiency created far greater demand due to the drop in cost. Energy is even more useful than aluminum, it literally makes aluminum. And yet, we’re using less, as we get more efficient at making it.

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                  aluminum replaces other materials in its use. energy is its own thing. using more aluminum for no real reason would not be good but we replaced things we made with other materials with aluminum once it was common but we don’t use it for things aluminum would not be a better material to use it for.