Bloke who had a Nazi salute happen at the podium during his inauguration suddenly concerned about anti semitism in the specific context of people who disagree with him.
Another 4 years of “very funny article, onio….oh… it’s… real… goddamnit.”
How very woke of him.
wait a second, were these the same “pro palestinian” protsters calling the incumbent democratic president “genocide joe” and telling people they weren’t going to vote for him, while marching in every american city and taking over college commons across the country during the spring and summer of an election year, chanting “from the river to the sea”? democratic youth vote was the lowest on record this last election, while the republican youth vote was the highest, more arab and latino americans voted for donald trump in the last election than have ever voted for any republican candidate before in us history.
donald trump won his second term by 2.3% of the vote
congratulations, not only did you make jews terrified, eschewing 100 years of bedrock jewish support of the democratic party, you ensured the return of someone without an inkling of concern for your issues
and we told you this was going to happen while they were doing it, the stupidest shit i’ve ever seen in my life
Yeah, this opinion isn’t holding much water anymore as he was Genocide Joe and we got stuck with Genocide Trump instead of Genoice Harris.
You can choose to blame the people who sat out this election, but I blame people like you and the “vote blue no matter who” individuals as you all signaled to the Democratic party that their shift into right-wing ideology was A-okay. This policy was unappealing to both the left and the right, which cost them yet another election with the same losing strategy. Attacking the left for not choosing between two right-wing candidates isn’t really helping anybody.
Maybe you should ask yourself why you’re giving unwavering support to a party that keeps backing candidates that can’t appeal to more voters than a tangerine reality TV star, a couch fucker, and a Nazi tech bro.
You can choose to blame the people who sat out this election
I do.
Why do you think Democrats keep voting for Trump’s cabinet nominations?
We’re in a period of politics where popularism is expanding. Everyone wants a “trump” - even the leftists, they just want a “trump” who aligns with their ideology.
The problem is the “trump” figure everyone wants is one who doesn’t care about the framework of government. The rules, norms, laws, etc. In the same way that religions are much more than their holy book our country is much more than our founding document. Most of the behavior of our government, and the executive branch in particular, is not defined in the constitution - it was created by laws and norms established over time. Often that is just “the executive does ‘war things’” without getting into details.
A “trump” doesn’t give a shit about those norms, ideals, or rules. They don’t care if they’re “breaking with tradition” or “trashing long-standing norms”. A “trump” is an ends-justifies-the-means monster.
You want a “leftist trump” - somebody who will trash the same institutions to get your way. Because your way is the right way and Trump is already destroying things so lets just aim the wreaking ball in a different direction.
But - in a representative democracy there needs to be compromise and debate. The parties should work together to find paths forward. Grandstanding on appointees isn’t really “a thing” you do because the president gets to choose his cabinet officers. Congress was never really supposed to block them on ideological grounds - it’s not really their role. And if you do it, then they might do it. It’s a bit of a “mutually assured destruction” scenario that keeps both sides willing to work together.
These norms are important though. They have traditionally kept the government more stable through transitions so that we don’t radically switch from left to right each election cycle.
You can, and will, say that “nothing at all matters anymore because Trump doesn’t care” and I hear you. But I caution about seeking your own “trump” because the framework of our government is more important than the policies its passing over the long run. The framework limits Trump to 4 years, for example. He was chosen by the people, we just need to hope that we can limit his damage in that time. God willing he’ll serve less given his advanced age.
So that’s why I think democrats are voting for his nominees. They’re upholding the norms and traditions as they have.
popularism
Did you mean “populism” or is this a distinct term with a different definition?
Everyone wants a “trump” - even the leftists, they just want a “trump” who aligns with their ideology.
Actual leftist here, our ideology is that there should be no "trump"s. You seem to be talking about right-wing liberals like the Democrats, who explicitly reject populism in favor of legalism and bipartisanship.
You want a “leftist trump” - somebody who will trash the same institutions to get your way.
Again, if we got our way then no one person would be able to “trash institutions”. Please stop projecting, we know that every right-wing accusation is a confession.
But - in a representative democracy there needs to be compromise and debate. The parties should work together to find paths forward.
This reads like an admission that the USA is not a representative democracy, as has been well established academically: https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
These norms are important though.
You can, and will, say that “nothing at all matters anymore because Trump doesn’t care” and I hear you.
Please, do expand upon this acknowledgement that we shouldn’t bother with “norms” when they are being so flagrantly ignored.
But I caution about seeking your own “trump” because the framework of our government is more important than the policies its passing over the long run.
For the third time, please stop accusing “the left” of sharing “the right”'s ideology re: authoritarian leadership. It’s extremely transparent.
He was chosen by the people
America has never had democratic elections. Our electoral system is designed so that “the people” don’t have any agency to resist the dominance of capital.
that’s why I think democrats are voting for his nominees. They’re upholding the norms and traditions as they have.
Is this an admission that the norms and traditions are bad, or an admission that the Democrats care more about bipartisanship than the threat that Trump’s administration poses?
Your entire tone indicates you’re more interested in “blasting” my response than reading it. Have a nice day.
If you’re unwilling to engage in political discourse because the tone is insufficiently defferential, then you’re letting the sensitivity of your ego override your commitment to your ideals.
I think your issue is less about my tone than the fact that you have no response to justify why you think political norms should be prioritized over the lives and livelihoods that are threatened by politics.
