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  • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Then I would conclude that you are not interested in winning elections.

    And therefore you shouldn’t give advice to people who do want to win elections.

    • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      4 hours ago

      Hey man, I want our Empire to crumble, not prolong it’s life.

      While crumbling, I want to limit damage as best as possible.

      The Dems are the ones who care about winning elections, and holding power. The only way to do that is to listen to the working class.

      Trump lied about his intent to fix the problems, but he did, minimally, agree they existed.

      • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        3 hours ago

        I don’t believe leftists actually know “the only way to win elections and hold power”, considering they have accomplished neither.

        • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          3 hours ago

          Probably because neither is our goal? I mean, leftists want no state, no classes, and no money.

          • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 hours ago

            Democrats definitely don’t want a stateless society. So they definitely should not listen to leftists.

            • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
              1·
              1 hour ago

              In which case, I cannot argue with. Which means the Democrats most certainly do not support the interests of the working class, and just want power over others. Which means, none of us should be voting for them, or the GOP.

              • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
                21·
                1 hour ago

                Plenty of people in the working class don’t want a stateless society, either.

                • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  1·
                  1 hour ago

                  Plenty of people in the working class want a fascist dictator too… That’s why its our job to work on raising class consciousness still.

                  And yes, the majoritarianism argument is to be had, as well.

                  • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    21·
                    1 hour ago

                    So by “interests of the working class”, you don’t mean “listen to the working class”. You mean “tell the working class what their interests are”.

                    Classic leftist. And you accuse Democrats of wanting power over others.