• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    How so?
    Geniunely don’t understand how being trans prevents you from getting out?
    I’d assume when being asked about your sex, I’d just swallow the pride (no pun intended) and say what the sex at birth was to get the paperwork done. As soon as ones out it won’t matter as much anyway.

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      3 hours ago

      This is not the case. Trans people are being denied passports of either gender marker as officials “wait for clarification” on the new rules. Furthermore, passports are being confiscated.

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        But even in your source, which does explain the circumstances (which are bad), they mention how it needs to be under the sex that is on your certificate.
        I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow (ignoring constant interruptions by unecessary policy changes)

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          I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow

          Or, you know, you live in a red state that fights tooth and nail to not update that information, all in the hopes that this day would eventually come.

          Updating your vital records is a state level item, and the process will vary by state, and that’s a requirement to get it changed on your Federal passport. Please don’t forget that a large amount of states have been trying to pretend these people don’t exist, and now the federal government is trying to help make that a reality. For an example of the difficulties as reported 3 years ago:


          States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on driver’s licenses

          Georgia.
          Guam (U.S. Territory).
          Iowa.
          Kentucky.
          Louisiana.
          Northern Mariana Islands (U.S. Territory).
          South Carolina.
          Tennessee.
          Texas.

          States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on birth certificates

          Alabama.
          Arizona.
          Arkansas.
          Georgia.
          Guam (U.S. Territory).
          Iowa.
          Kentucky.
          Louisiana.
          Missouri.
          Nebraska.
          New Hampshire.
          North Carolina.
          North Dakota.
          Wisconsin.

          States barring residents from amending their gender designation on official documents

          Montana.
          Oklahoma.
          Tennessee.
          West Virginia


          I’ll note again that this was 3 years ago, before the massive wave of anti-trans legislation in the last couple of years.

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            Hm ok. but again: What prevents me from just not doing the whole passport changing thing in the US and staying X/Y for now, acquiring the passport, getting out and immigrating somewhere else doing and do the whole paperwork there instead.

            Please don’t take this as an ignorant take. I am neither a US citizen nor trans but interested and feel for my fellow friends on the other side of the pond.

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              If you’re not out yet, it’s not necessarily an issue, but masking hurts them a lot mentally after a while. Those who are already out but haven’t changed their documents have to go back to masking (assuming they’re willing to) to move forward with getting updated documents. And gods forbid you’ve started the process but it’s not completed, because they might straight up take your docs and tell you to fuck off.