Yesterday I was reading the post about the FUTO keyboard where there were a lot of messages deleted by moderators.
I’ve commented there
What the heck happened with all the messages deleted by moderator?
And it got deleted. Right now you can only see 4, but I’ve counted 19 messages moderated and the post has been locked. Why?
I’ve had a look ad the modlog and the messages don’t seems to violate any policy (now they’ve removed them in the modlog too).
I’m pinging here lemmy.ml admin and the mods of the open source community where the post was posted so they can have their say about it and clarify the situation to me.
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If I’m getting something wrong, please let me know, I’m here to discus and understand if I’m getting something wrong or if something went wrong in the moderation. Thanks!
Down here you can see the deleted comments.
P.s. I’m writing here because I think that this post on lemmy.ml wouldn’t last long.
You posted an entire thread to yell at us
I’m not OP and I didn’t yell at anybody. I shared my opinion about moderation, the reasons why lemmy.ml’s is wrong, and why it matters. In a community which is devoted to that type of discussion. The moderator also shared their opinion and was widely upvoted. We all got some clarity.
Not everything that upsets you personally is a “flamewar” or needs to stop right now because you decree it.
OP started this thread to try and discredit our mod. That is an attack. Me posting how said OP is in the wrong is not attacking, it is responding to an attack.
They did not start a new thread to continue the FUTO discussion elsewhere. If they truly wanted to discuss that topic, they would have done so. Instead they made this thread.
Not to mention they just had to inject their tInYmAn sQuArE bullshit into it.
OP said, “If I’m getting something wrong, please let me know, I’m here to discus and understand if I’m getting something wrong or if something went wrong in the moderation. Thanks!”
Yes they did. Their original conversation was arguably offtopic in the open source keyboard discussion. So, when it was deleted there, they started a new post, but unfortunately not realizing that FUTO was on the list of official enemies, and so people aren’t allowed to have a conversation about it. To me, and OP, that’s weird. We’re allowed to say that, and be critical of the moderation policy, without it being an “attack.” So, in keeping, they started a whole separate discussion about the moderation. But their whole point originally was to discuss this keyboard thing and maybe learn some things about it.
In my opinion, once you take control of someone else’s environment, you’re opening yourself up for your decisions to be criticized, whether or not the criticism is “fair” or whether or not you agree with it. That’s how it works. Claiming that anyone who doesn’t like how you’re wielding your power, and talks about it, is “attacking” you and so you need to respond to the attack is… well, on brand for pro-authoritarian spaces, I guess. That’s just not my culture.
TIL moderation is authoritarianism
“Pro-authoritarian” did not, at all, mean as regards moderation philosophy. There’s some overlap philosophically I guess, but the amount of harm that a moderator I disagree with can do is pretty limited as compared with what I’m talking about there.
I think the productive part of this conversation is probably been and gone, by now. Just wanted to clear that up.