This has been a problem basically since we started having votes on things. There are flaws with basically all voting systems. I still think ranked choice voting is better but it absolutely leads to the possibility of everyones least favorite person being elected and that would be bad.
This has been a problem mathematicians have been trying to resolve since basically the beginning of humanity. Each voting system has flaws and it’s not really clear which one is the most “fair”. I still think we should try other systems or at the very least go into them knowing the draw backs and attempting to mitigate as much as possible.
Idk. There just has to be a better way than what we currently got.
Pretty much every way known to mankind is better than what we’ve got; it’s not as if we’re getting to constantly test new ideas and make a more perfect democracy.
FPTP is imposed on us by those in power. It systematically reduces the cost to subvert the will of voters. The system is inherently dichotomous, and third parties can rarely upset the dynamic.
Same with electoral votes in a two party system. Now if we could expand into a four or five party with those parties getting the same level of importance, it could improve the quality of candidates by giving us more choices.
Yeah but that would require someone to break off from one of the two powerful parties. And historically there is little to no support of third party candidates. What’s the most a third party ever got? Like 3 percent of votes?
the possibility of everyones least favorite person being elected and that would be bad
The mathematical possibility, yes, but are there examples of this occurring in real-world elections? If the candidates and voters are distributed over a conventional political spectrum, won’t you see centrist candidates win more frequently in non-winner-take-all systems?
In theory sure. We have never been able to test it at scale. I am willing to try it, but good luck trying to get those in power to ever change a goddamn thing.
This has been a problem basically since we started having votes on things. There are flaws with basically all voting systems. I still think ranked choice voting is better but it absolutely leads to the possibility of everyones least favorite person being elected and that would be bad.
You could do a lot worse than proportional representation and STAR voting
This has been a problem mathematicians have been trying to resolve since basically the beginning of humanity. Each voting system has flaws and it’s not really clear which one is the most “fair”. I still think we should try other systems or at the very least go into them knowing the draw backs and attempting to mitigate as much as possible.
Idk. There just has to be a better way than what we currently got.
Pretty much every way known to mankind is better than what we’ve got; it’s not as if we’re getting to constantly test new ideas and make a more perfect democracy.
FPTP is imposed on us by those in power. It systematically reduces the cost to subvert the will of voters. The system is inherently dichotomous, and third parties can rarely upset the dynamic.
“The purpose of the system is what it does”.
Same with electoral votes in a two party system. Now if we could expand into a four or five party with those parties getting the same level of importance, it could improve the quality of candidates by giving us more choices.
Yeah but that would require someone to break off from one of the two powerful parties. And historically there is little to no support of third party candidates. What’s the most a third party ever got? Like 3 percent of votes?
The purpose of the system is what it does
19%. The Reform Party. And then it got taken over by Pat Buchanan.
The mathematical possibility, yes, but are there examples of this occurring in real-world elections? If the candidates and voters are distributed over a conventional political spectrum, won’t you see centrist candidates win more frequently in non-winner-take-all systems?
In theory sure. We have never been able to test it at scale. I am willing to try it, but good luck trying to get those in power to ever change a goddamn thing.