I’ve been questioning and curious, and I wanted to talk to some people about my experience, who know more about being trans than I do.

I am almost 30, I’m bisexual, and I was assigned male at birth. I was raised in a very Catholic household (and went to Catholic school from elementary through high school), so it wasn’t exactly an environment that was going to give me the language to understand who I was, or encouraged to explore my sexuality and gender identity.

I was always more emotional than my peers - my parents put me in wrestling and karate during elementary and middle school to “toughen me up”. Although that may have had to do with my RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria) from my ADHD.

I never really enjoyed sports like wrestling or football - I ended up liking volleyball and distance running. I preferred hobbies that are more traditionally feminine, like baking and sewing. Don’t get me wrong, I also liked camping and stuff with Boy Scouts (not that camping and hiking are inherently masculine) but I definitely never felt like a super masculine as a kid.

I would get in trouble for growing my hair out as long as I was allowed to, and then some, and I got in trouble for wearing more jewelry than a Catholic school was appropriate for boys too (too many rings and necklaces). I was made fun of in middle and high school for wearing pink, or liking things that were too girly.

About 5 years ago, I started to identify as nonbinary, as I learned more about queerness and started to find the language to describe what I was feeling. When my wife came out to me as bi, I finally felt comfortable coming out as nonbinary to her. And since then, I’ve started to feel more confident expressing my gender differently, mostly in small ways, like growing my hair longer and painting my nails. I’ve still only come out as NB to a small handful of people, and day-to-day I probably present more as “eccentric guy” than anything else.

The thing that I’ve noticed, though, is that the less masculine I look, act, and present, the more I feel like myself. I feel like men’s clothing is so limiting, and I always feel out of place when I’m in a group of otherwise all guys.

I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male. And if I could flip a switch and instantly be a woman, I would. But I don’t experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe (although I do hate being so hairy).

All of that said, I don’t know what exactly it feels like to be trans, or be a woman, so I don’t know how to compare my experience to how I “should” or “shouldn’t” feel.

And obviously right now is a scary time in the US to be queer of any kind, so there’s a part of me that’s very scared about what if I am trans - what that would entail in terms of how people/my friends and family would react and treat me.

Anyway, I’m not trying to presume anything about the trans experience, and I apologize if anything I said seemed ignorant. I guess I’m just confused and looking for some insight and support, since there aren’t many people in real life that I can talk to about these things (wife and therapist aside).

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    Crying in bed because I wasn’t a girl should have been a definite tell :) But it always went better at some point before it became impossible to hold back so I never sought help. My teens were loops of doubts, then certainty but too scared to talk.

    In my later adolescence I realised I (or started to) liked guys, and I was able to to feel better about being one. And I had a few adventures with guys as a guy which felt great and I thus believed that my trans phase had passed, for a few years.

    During that time I often described myself as “I don’t really care/I could be either, but people say I’m a guy so ok” but I still had a little (repressed?) desire to be seen as a girl. And I was weirdly emotional about being treated as a guy by laws that differentiate between men and women (military service/retirement age)

    Then I had to work as a kitchen assistant, mostly with women, and being treated as a non-woman by them felt really bad. (Previously I was in an environment that didn’t really feel gendered) And the outfit made me look vaguely feminine and I liked it and awoke my desires to be seen as a girl and experiment with clothing and nail polish.

    As I experimented, it completely shattered my egg, I slowly came out to friends, and 14 days ago, started HRT!

  • Nat (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I think you’re overthinking it. Transgender isn’t one particular thing, it basically just means not cis (and even then there’s people who kinda identify with their AGAB and kinda don’t at the same time), so it’s impossible to get more specific while still generalizing to all trans people.

    Personally, I don’t strongly identify with labels, I only really care about labels in how they help me quickly communicate with people.

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    Weird right wingers kept going on about trans people, and I wanted to be informed about it and learned a few things about myself in the process.

    I genuinely had no idea for most of my life. The signs were there all along but only in retrospect. It took me 2-3 years of questioning before I started transitioning. I was not ever truly certain I was trans until I started HRT, and everything started to feel fine, like genuinely fine. Didn’t realize I was depressed from dysphoria my entire life because I had no point of comparison.

    I certainly envy the trans people who were able to learn they were trans at an early age. The best time to transition is just before the start of puberty, the second best time is now.

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    Hiking in the desert last spring and all the sudden it hit me, I never thought of it before and boom. I considered myself a semi normal guy and never knowingly had any interactions with trans folks until the morning of my outing.

    After taking 3 month shots of Lupron for medical reasons for a year and a half, my doctor put me on a 6 month shot, a few weeks later I started having severe anxiety, I worried about everything and everybody, I was tense and emotional, had empathy like I’ve never known, after searching around, I decided I was having female menopause type episodes from having extremely low testosterone. I rode the emotions a few weeks and started feel a little loose physically, and just surfed the waves mentally

    While waiting in line to get some direction for my hike I clocked a woman and thought ,Oh she knows what hormones do to emotions wish I could talk to her about it. Of course I didn’t, but I thought about her during the hike. My thinking was, she just said to herself fuck this I’m a girl and did it. I rolled that in my head the rest of the day and pretty much decided that’s what I’m going to do. I’m 67, been a happy go luck guy my whole life, I would describe myself as your screwed up relative that never got their shit together but are happy with their life. After I got back home I asked around in the r/ place talked my oncologist into some patches and feel really incredibly grateful to have stumbled into this at the backend of my life.

  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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    But I don’t experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe (although I do hate being so hairy).

    There’s so much variation in experiences. Being trans isn’t defined by suffering even if lots of trans people do suffer.

    Personally, realized I was NB in my late-20’s a couple years ago. At first (like, for 2-3 weeks?) I considered myself agender but didn’t identify with the “trans” label. Soon I realized I actually related a lot more to transfem experiences than I expected, so I accepted the trans label. I still like the agender and NB labels, but also consider myself transfem. I don’t think of myself as a woman even though I now take E and have nuked my T levels.

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      I had a similar experience! When I first started questioning, I ended up concluding I was agender, but mostly because the feminine parts of me had been deeply repressed by childhood trauma and life experiences. It was probably 3 or 4 weeks where I was sure that’s where my gender identity was, but that revelation came with a huge wave of dysphoria, and as I started presenting less masculinely, and explored femininity, I felt more and more like myself. I eventually hit a kind of breaking point where I realized that I was trans, and I’ve never been happier with myself after committing to it! I don’t think of myself as agender anymore, but I related to your experience!

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        Yeah. The repression is quite relatable. Maybe eventually I’ll decide I don’t relate to the agender label or consider myself a NB woman. Used to be a lot more concerned about the answer to label questions, but eventually realized the answer didn’t really matter: I can change presentation, hormones, etc regardless.

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    All of that said, I don’t know what exactly it feels like to be trans, or be a woman, so I don’t know how to compare my experience to how I “should” or “shouldn’t” feel.

    I don’t think anybody does. But “trans” and “woman” are just labels. I find it’s more helpful to think about what you want to do.

    I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male. And if I could flip a switch and instantly be a woman, I would.

    You might like to reflect some more on what this implies about your gender.

    For most of my life I identified as “just a regular dude… unfortunately”. Possibly with a greater-than-usual interest in HRT and trans topics, and a rather persistent fantasy about having a female body.

    Then I started briefly questioning, but was still “not trans… unfortunately”. The thing that cracked me was seeing egg_irl memes of the “you can just be a girl; there’s no entry requirements to be trans” variety. I realized that transitioning was something I desperately wanted all my life but didn’t allow myself to consider, and that was that. A very sudden “ohhh shit I am trans” moment. I still doubt whether I’m “really trans”, but I sure as hell don’t want to stop transitioning!

    Anyway, check out the Gender Dysphoria Bible (see the sidebar), stick around and I hope you manage to figure yourself out satisfactorily, whatever you turn out to be.

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      For most of my life I identified as “just a regular dude… unfortunately”.

      I felt that way for a long time (and still do sometimes). Being raised in a subculture that so heavily reinforces gender roles, it took a long time for me to understand the breadth of people’s gender experiences.

      You might like to reflect some more on what this implies about your gender.

      I define will, and fortunately, I have therapy this weekend. My therapist has been great about helping me work out some of my gender feelings in a positive and non-judgmental way

      And thank you for recommending the sidebar! I’m usually on mobile, so I forget sidebars are a thing, I’ll check out the resources there

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      thanks for pointing out the gender Bible, that’s a helpful resource to share with my family!

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    Told my therapist I had that I was “broken” and had “bad” thoughts of girl clothes. She told me what being Transgender is with love and kindess and acceptance and learned “hey that’s me”

    Basically one therapy session with a good therapist.

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    I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male

    Imo it’s better that you focus on what you are now rather than think about all the random possibilities that never happened. Up to you though, I personally don’t like thinking about that as ngl I kinda feel the same way.

    I don’t experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe

    Nothing wrong with that! Some people do feed bad about it, others don’t. I’ve heard countless times from cis women how they wish they could have a penis because its simpler.
    I personally don’t feel particularly bad about mine other than when wearing tighter clothes.

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    Obligatory “Only you can decide who you are and who you want to be.”
    The trans community is usually very cautious not to tell other people who and what they are, because that’s the negative experience that most of us made: Other people told us who we are and/or who were supposed to be (assigned gender and all that) and it went badly for most of us.

    For me personally, I also lacked the language to express my gender feelings when I was young. I was a precocious, sensitive kid that had more female friends than boys usually had. Yet I did not reflect on my gender very much.
    Only during puberty did I realize that something was off. I realized that I did not want to grow up to be a man and desired more than anything to be female. Yet I also lacked the language to express myself. I grew up in a small city with no visible queer scene, so I did not really know how to express myself and ultimately surrendered to grow up as everyone expected me to.

    But it never felt right. “Maleness” was like clothes that did not fit me, no matter how hard I tried. I often felt like a “fake man” and that I had to perform maleness as much as possible, because people expected it from me and I was not good enough at it.
    Meanwhile my desire to be female also never went away. Looking back I now understand that this was gender envy, but in the moment I experienced it as a constant yearning that pulled on me and while it got weaker from time to time, it never fully went away.

    My only outlet were games and virtual spaces wherein I usually played female characters. The easiest way for me to lose interest in a game was if it forced me to play as a man.

    My egg finally cracked when I realized that my gender envy encompassed trans women too: Why could they have a transition while I did not? Why could they take estrogen while I could not? Why could they wear female clothes, etc. These kind of thoughts ultimately led me to realize that I am trans myself, because I wanted to change my gender so much and I was the only one who could make that happen.

    Ultimately my transition was not only an embrace of my own femaleness, but also a rejection of maleness.

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    I was always a precocious little kitten and figured out I was enby around age 11.

    I never could get comfortable with the idea of manhood and when I got around to examining my feelings I realized I wasn’t a woman either. A bit of brute-force introspection eliminated all other possibilities and revealed that a mixed gender suited me best, but I grew up in Texas in the 90’s so there were no role models and the very idea of what I was seemed like an unachievable fantasy. I kept those feelings to myself for years. It wasn’t until 2018 or so that I met another enby and immediately recognized that part of me in them. That cracked my egg for good, and started me on a project of escaping Texas so I could start hormone therapy.

  • Selyle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Late 20s to early 30s. It was during lockdowns when I wasn’t interacting with irl society much - work was all remote, and all my interactions were online. I quickly realized that when I removed the pressure of having to conform to what I thought was expected of me, I was actually a completely different person. I started interacting with more queer people, especially trans individuals, and realized that there were a lot of parallels with how they felt about gender and all the other constructs of society which never really made sense to me. Honestly, I meant sooo many when I started FFXIV.

    The idea that I could decide how I wanted to identify and be perceived by people never really occurred to me.

    I had always disliked a lot of aspects about myself and tried to be as much of a ghost as possible. It rarely felt like I was living for me. As I slowly started to explore the things I truly liked - cute things, pink things, and soft things - I noticed my views of life started to brighten. I felt more excited about the things I was surrounding myself with, and I noticed people were interacting with me in a friendlier and warmer way. As I started to shine brighter, people around me started to shine brighter, too!

    All that said - why didn’t I just lean into identifying as NB or just fully ignore gender as a whole? I did initially, but about those things which I didn’t like about myself - so many happened to be T driven. Thick body and facial hair- no thank you, thick/rough/acne prone skin- please go, body composition- wasn’t really liking how it fit in the dresses/skirts I wanted to wear, overall mindset and emotions (this changed a lot), etc. Obviously, all these things have taken time and additional effort, but it all feels so fulfilling.

    I was initially worried about how people in my life would react/treat me, but I decided to start always putting my own feelings and desires first… no one else was going to. I will acknowledge that it’s bit easier for me to do that- my circle is incredibly small, I’ve been single for 5-6 years, I was working remotely, and I kind of rarely leave my home.

    My question to people - if you had an irl character creator, how would you design yourself? How would you choose to move in the world if there were no expectations?

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    WYKYK; “When you know, you know.”

    Don’t rush yourself. Don’t let anyone try to crack your “shell” or treat you like an egg if you feel uncomfortable with that. Be yourself and feel it out.

    If after hearing a few testimonies and stories from other trans people you personally feel that experience more closely matches yours; by all means don’t hesitate to consider yourself trans.

    Explore our communities, hear some stories, explore the meanings on your own terms and find what fits!~

    Welcome to being Queer/Questioning. <3 Lots of space to explore and even decide you want to venture out to explore under the even wider umbrella of being trans.

    So yes; technically you could argue you’re trans; even as you are. If that makes you comfortable; do it. If it does not; you don’t have to. It’s your own labels and your right to self-assign whatever labels you feel fit you best.

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      Now that the mandatory reminders of “It’s your choice” are out of the way; fwy will tell a bit about how fwy cracked.

      Fwy has always been fascinated with various feminine things from a very young age; and that includes things like fashion, makeup, and other ways and forms of creatively expressing fwyself with fwy’s very own body.

      Of course as you probably know, or have experienced, being AMAB typically means you get pidgeonholed into very specific, very utilitarian clothing and you don’t often get a lot of choices on the colors or things of that nature; and it’s typically even enforced at a high level that AMAB bodies also do not sport very many types of body accentuation or decorations that are not of a permanent and irreversible nature. No offense to those who do sport very colorful tattoos.

      Even when Fwyfwy was just 8 years old; Fwy found immense pleasure in simple decorations of fwy’s own body. Given a box of washable markers and privacy; fwy would be very artistic and decorate fwy body, usually fwy feet and legs as those were easiest to sort of color or decorate to emulate something in some manner, to look like whatever fwy felt she most resonated with. Most frequently; fwy would resonate strongly with many female characters and found it strongly maddening that fwy couldn’t display fwy’s self decoration publicly; but it at least kept fwy sane to know fwy had the decoration on fwy’s own body underneath fwyfwy drab clothes.

      This is only a fragment of fwy’s experience of being trans; but fwy feels it’s the best fragment to offer. Fwy does not want to be discouraging when you may just be seeking to feel like you are not alone. Rest assured that you are not alone.

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    AMAB person here. When I was kid I loved wearing skirts and do makeup at home alone in room. When I was teen and discovered reddit I looked at crossdreser and femboy subreddit and thought they looked cute and I wanted to look like that. I figured out I want to be referred as woman and also there is this whole beef with my penis I just hate it and wish to have vagina. But also I still love being referred to as man that’s why for now at least I use bigender term but it might change as I discover myself more or it might not change. I want to have vagina but not necessarily female body, I would love feminine body but also like my masc body except penis of course.

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      It’s funny, I feel somewhat the opposite - I think I might prefer a female body over my current male one, but I don’t have any particular issue with having a dick

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        Two things worth pointing out here that may or may not be relevant:

        • Not all trans women experience bottom dysphoria
        • It’s not unusual to start (or stop) feeling dysphoria about things that weren’t a problem previously