• explodicle
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    16 hours ago

    Then maybe instead of calling it “communism”, we should call each version something that reflects the actual system and not the end goal? “Vanguardism” maybe?

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      16 hours ago

      We already call “Marxism-Leninism,” well, Marxism-Leninism, which includes both the system and the end goal.

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        13 hours ago

        Fair enough. I’ll start just calling it that instead of “communism”.

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          3 hours ago

          I think you should just use terms the way Communists and people in general have been using them, though. MLs are Communists, you don’t need to not call them by what they are.

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            1 hour ago

            If the system’s purpose is what it does, and not what they claim to want, then we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.

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              1 hour ago

              I suppose, perhaps you have a different conception of what Communism is than what Marx believed it to be or how it is likely to be achieved, in which case Marxism-Leninism would indeed not fit your conception of Communism.