• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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    Hopefully this poisons the generation against Republicans for decades to come…

    I know growing up in a conservative dominant government they definitely made it so I have never voted conservative in any level of government for the past two decades.

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      Sorry, but anyone dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump after witnessing his first term is too stupid to learn from their mistakes.

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        Can’t blame gen z too much since they were probably learning how to not wet themselves when Trump was first in office

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          I know this is hyperbole, but just to remind anyone who needs it, there are married gen z people with children.

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            Yeah, GenZ complaints have become the new “millennials are so lazy, they should just buy a house.” GenZ have graduated with their masters degrees and are in the same boat that millennials were in 20 years ago.

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        An common explanation for swinging voters is superficial contact with politics. People are too busy with other things in their life to put two and two together. As a result, they make superficial decisions based on current feelings.

        I would think that schools also frequently fail, by not providing any tools for political analysis.

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        Gen Z barely got to know his first term, that’s probably why. Either in high school or college. Still a dumb decision, but at least it’s a bit less bad?

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          I hear your point and I think about that a lot, actually. Yes, what I said above was pithy and judgmental, but I also think it has a vein of truth in it.

          I’ve dropped friends over their support for Trump, precisely because they fail to see what I deem to be obvious character flaws in him. That they can’t see those flaws speaks to an enormous lack of psychological perceptiveness. Can they realize they made a mistake in voting for him? I think they can regret it when the things he does negatively affect them, but that doesn’t mean their ability to judge character improves. What I meant by my statement above is that my confidence in people with such critical problems in empathy to fix those problems is extremely low.

          I hope that more extensive explanation of my point makes it clear I’m not simply dismissing an entire class of people under a stereotype. I genuinely think supporting Trump speaks to a severe problem in psychological appraisal that is not easily rectified.

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              I understand. But I still stand by what I said. Voting for Trump speaks to a severe problem in EQ if not IQ, and people with intellectual deficits that severe tend not to be able to improve upon them. More people voted for him his second time than the first. That alone speaks to their short-sightedness and short memory. There was also much more information available to them about his character and his tyrannical agenda for his second term. These are not smart folks and I do not have high hopes that they can learn from their mistakes. An anti-gay parent who only changes their stance when their own child comes out hasn’t really learned anything, they’ve just adjusted their behavior based on self-interest. These folks are no different.

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      No, that’s exactly not what’s should happen. This whole mess has its roots in the fact that everyone only cares about populism and partisanship.

      The solution isn’t to blindly turn to the Democrats, because then the whole thing will tip right over in the other direction, which will be different, but not better.

      What’s really needed is a reformed Republican party, that can offer real competition to the Dems, instead of pushing a platform of a popular liar to win elections, while dismantling the fabric of democracy and driving the country into a wall.