I dont think its that unreasonable. A flat tire happens so rarely, and for most people, they can just call a tow truck. For most, I dont think its worth carting a tire and wheel around for potentially zero use over the life of the car.
Some people definitely need spares, but realistically, most dont.
Your being sarcastic, but yes. A flat tire is rare, and minimal impact. Not preparing for it is perfectly reasonable. If you are in a situation where a flat is high impact (driving into the bush, etc) then you need a solution, and you should prepare for that.
But for the vast majority of drivers, and especially EV drivers, a tow truck is actually a solution, because they are almost always in a metropolitan area.
This assumes you don’t leave a major city though. Start driving in the county side and you’ll find there are dead zones. Go drive in the Rockies and you’ll find quite a few areas that have no cell reception.
And carrying a spare makes sense in those situations. Where as someone who drives in a city or suburbs with acceptable mobile coverage doesn’t need the spare.
You clearly didnt read the post, let me highlight the two statements that make your comment unreaasonable:
If you are in a situation where a flat is high impact (driving into the bush, etc) then you need a solution, and you should prepare for that.
Firstly the address the possibility of driving in remote areas and state you need to prepare in that case
But for the vast majority of drivers, and especially EV drivers, a tow truck is actually a solution, because they are almost always in a metropolitan area.
And then point out for the vast majority of EV drivers that isn’t in their risk profile
So your whining about “whaddabout da rockieezz” shows you simply didnt read or comprehend.
You’re being like the idiots who whine “but I need to drive a thousand miles in one go while towing a 6ton trailer so an EV is useless for everyone on the planet because it doesn’t work for me”
Wow, so not driving in a major city is now “driving in the bush”. Also, driving outside a major city is also = to towing a 6ton trailer.
It literally couldn’t be to see family that don’t live in the same city, going to another major city, camping in well maintained national parks, going to an amusement park that isn’t in a major city… Nope, it’s either major city or hauling giant trailers.
Hint, maybe you should go out sometime and see how short sighted your vague definitions and answers really are.
Forgot to add that quite a few airport long term parking lots don’t have signal either, and with most being fully automatic, this doesn’t end up well. But hey, this must be also considered “driving in the bush”/“hauling 6ton trailers”, huh?
Hint, maybe you should go out sometime and see how short sighted your vague definitions and answers really are.
How moronic. If you think cellphones stop working once you leave major Metropolitan areas, maybe it is you that needs to actually get out and go somewhere. You think amusement parks and airports don’t have cell coverage and that a flat tire in one of these places means you’re stranded and alone? Jesus christ.
In the city, not much of one. Rural roads with bad cell coverage at night in the dead of winter? Life or death situation.
That being said, I think a spare is unnecessary for 99% of drivers. In ~20 years of driving, I’ve only used a spare maybe 3 times, and those were more for convenience than necessity. My last car just had a pump, and I got a screw it in. I just aired it up and drove to the tire shop. After that I bought a plug kit for a quick roadside repair.
My minivan has a donut spare that is stored under the car (inside a cover). Super easy to get to, and never in the way. The tire and winch mechanism together adds maybe 30lbs of extra weight.
I’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I couldn’t imagine the embarrassment of having to call a fucking tow truck because of a flat tire.
I dont think its that unreasonable. A flat tire happens so rarely, and for most people, they can just call a tow truck. For most, I dont think its worth carting a tire and wheel around for potentially zero use over the life of the car.
Some people definitely need spares, but realistically, most dont.
Ya. Emergencies are rare so why bother being prepared.
Calling a tow truck isn’t a solution.
Your being sarcastic, but yes. A flat tire is rare, and minimal impact. Not preparing for it is perfectly reasonable. If you are in a situation where a flat is high impact (driving into the bush, etc) then you need a solution, and you should prepare for that.
But for the vast majority of drivers, and especially EV drivers, a tow truck is actually a solution, because they are almost always in a metropolitan area.
This assumes you don’t leave a major city though. Start driving in the county side and you’ll find there are dead zones. Go drive in the Rockies and you’ll find quite a few areas that have no cell reception.
And carrying a spare makes sense in those situations. Where as someone who drives in a city or suburbs with acceptable mobile coverage doesn’t need the spare.
You mean ride a bus?
You clearly didnt read the post, let me highlight the two statements that make your comment unreaasonable:
Firstly the address the possibility of driving in remote areas and state you need to prepare in that case
And then point out for the vast majority of EV drivers that isn’t in their risk profile
So your whining about “whaddabout da rockieezz” shows you simply didnt read or comprehend.
You’re being like the idiots who whine “but I need to drive a thousand miles in one go while towing a 6ton trailer so an EV is useless for everyone on the planet because it doesn’t work for me”
Wow, so not driving in a major city is now “driving in the bush”. Also, driving outside a major city is also = to towing a 6ton trailer.
It literally couldn’t be to see family that don’t live in the same city, going to another major city, camping in well maintained national parks, going to an amusement park that isn’t in a major city… Nope, it’s either major city or hauling giant trailers.
Hint, maybe you should go out sometime and see how short sighted your vague definitions and answers really are.
Forgot to add that quite a few airport long term parking lots don’t have signal either, and with most being fully automatic, this doesn’t end up well. But hey, this must be also considered “driving in the bush”/“hauling 6ton trailers”, huh?
How moronic. If you think cellphones stop working once you leave major Metropolitan areas, maybe it is you that needs to actually get out and go somewhere. You think amusement parks and airports don’t have cell coverage and that a flat tire in one of these places means you’re stranded and alone? Jesus christ.
Mate I grew up on a cattle station where the next nearest house was a 100km away. I know what living in tge boondocks is.
I also know that this use case is a very small minority of people, AND HE ALREADY addressed your minority issue.
You can keep trying to be hard done by or accept that your situation is representative of less than 1% of EV sales
How is a flat tire an emergency?
In the city, not much of one. Rural roads with bad cell coverage at night in the dead of winter? Life or death situation.
That being said, I think a spare is unnecessary for 99% of drivers. In ~20 years of driving, I’ve only used a spare maybe 3 times, and those were more for convenience than necessity. My last car just had a pump, and I got a screw it in. I just aired it up and drove to the tire shop. After that I bought a plug kit for a quick roadside repair.
My minivan has a donut spare that is stored under the car (inside a cover). Super easy to get to, and never in the way. The tire and winch mechanism together adds maybe 30lbs of extra weight.
I’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I couldn’t imagine the embarrassment of having to call a fucking tow truck because of a flat tire.