South Korea says it's uncovered evidence that DeepSeek has secretly been sharing data with ByteDance, the parent company of popular social media app TikTok.
Gee I wonder if grok shares data with the rest of twitter, Gemini shares with the rest of google or llama… actually I haven’t used Facebook in ages, I don’t even know if there’s a ChatGPT equivalent service on Facebook.
I do actually wonder if Anthropic shares data with Amazon, or OpenAI with Microsoft (their majority shareholders). That would be a direct 1:1 comparison with what’s happening between deepseek and bytedance (though at least in the latter case you can host-your-own since the model is open source).
DeepSeek isn’t owned by bytedance, which is why it’s news worthy. The title is stating DeepSeek (an independent company) is sharing data with Bytedance (TikTok parent company).
So it would be like OpenAI sharing ChatGPT data to Google. Which would be noteworthy as there is likely a lot of sensitive information that people share and most people probably don’t think that data is being sold/shared.
Llama is not touted as better than ChatGPT models. On most benchmarks Llama3.3 performs worse than ChatGPT 4o and much worse than OpenAi’s reasoning model o3-mini.
Unless you’re speaking in terms of privacy and then unfortunately no one really knows as OpenAI does not release any of their metadata and Llama models are self hosted so there’s no method in which the data will leave the LAN they’re hosted on. It’s a case of apples and oranges.
Gee I wonder if grok shares data with the rest of twitter, Gemini shares with the rest of google or llama… actually I haven’t used Facebook in ages, I don’t even know if there’s a ChatGPT equivalent service on Facebook.
I do actually wonder if Anthropic shares data with Amazon, or OpenAI with Microsoft (their majority shareholders). That would be a direct 1:1 comparison with what’s happening between deepseek and bytedance (though at least in the latter case you can host-your-own since the model is open source).
DeepSeek isn’t owned by bytedance, which is why it’s news worthy. The title is stating DeepSeek (an independent company) is sharing data with Bytedance (TikTok parent company).
So it would be like OpenAI sharing ChatGPT data to Google. Which would be noteworthy as there is likely a lot of sensitive information that people share and most people probably don’t think that data is being sold/shared.
Yes, that’s a valid distinction. Though practically speaking, I don’t really know how different it is from anthropic sharing with Amazon, for example
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Llama is touted as better than chat gpt. It ostensibly doesn’t share data if you self host it… But I never trust any of them.
Llama is not touted as better than ChatGPT models. On most benchmarks Llama3.3 performs worse than ChatGPT 4o and much worse than OpenAi’s reasoning model o3-mini.
Unless you’re speaking in terms of privacy and then unfortunately no one really knows as OpenAI does not release any of their metadata and Llama models are self hosted so there’s no method in which the data will leave the LAN they’re hosted on. It’s a case of apples and oranges.