This one is both upsetting and weird.

So there was a user on ponder.cat who’s been spamming posts. Like a lot. 58 per day, on average. Not 58 comments. 58 posts.

I started seeing a little scattering of reports about it, mostly just figured it was the mods’ business to deal with, and then finally today I actually really took a look at what they were doing and realized it was way over the top. Pretty much everyone in the comments agreed when someone brought it up.

A 25 day old account with 1,400+ posts? What the actual fuck? My entire goddamn feed is this one account…

Touch grass. Good lord. You’re carpet bombing multiple communities with repeats of the same crap.

The user was not receptive.

lol.

I guess people here do not know how to block an account.

:)

Is that a compliment or a rant?

May I introduce you to Lemmy block function.

If you don’t like my posts then block me and you will never see them again. As simple as that.

That’s a bunch of bullshit. The voting was about as you would expect. I said to the user:

That’s not how it works. If you’re interfering with the average Lemmy user’s experience, you don’t get to claim it doesn’t count because each individual person would be able to block each individual problematic account, if they wanted to have a good experience. Honestly, these people have a point. You have been posting an average of 58 posts per day. That’s too much. I post a ton, and that’s about 10 times more than me, and I’ve gotten multiple complaints about posting too much in particular communities. The handful of times it’s happened, my reaction was “Oh my bad what sounds like an acceptable level” and then to more or less stick to an acceptable level. Getting snarky with people who are asking you to cool it is very bad. Please stop posting so much. Anything about 10-15 posts per day starts to feel really excessive to me. Definitely don’t be dismissive about people’s complaints to you about it.

They rejected my suggestion, so I sent them a DM that was a little more direct about it: Stop doing this if you want to keep your account on my instance.

Then, for some reason, they deleted their account on their own.

Well, that was weird, but at least it’s all resolved and we can all get back to what we were doing. Or wait… what’s happening now?

I wasn’t expecting “making sure we make a safe space for the spammers by banning people who complain about spam” to be an important moderation duty, but I guess in the bizarro world that is [email protected] moderation philosophy, it makes perfect sense.

https://lemmy.world/modlog/1347

@[email protected]

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    21 hours ago

    This fails to at all explain why the block button would not have solved your problem with zero drama.

    You’re not a leader in that community? Petition the community and become one. Don’t want to be an agent of change? Join another community. There are so many outlets to getting this user out of your feed that don’t involve you posting comments of negative sentiment like you are some kind of guerilla police force.

    Especially with a community as tended toward toxicity and slapfights as this one, I absolutely understand the motivation to preemptively remove threads that veer into the off topic than let them fester, especially if it’s happening a lot.

    YDI sorry :( next time I would make a meta thread or just block the offensive user.

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      The upvotes for this person’s point of view were pretty much unanimous. Most people clearly didn’t see it as negativity. Also, reports of the original user for spamming or unreliable sources are pretty common. IDK how the [email protected] rules are written, but in most internet communities, spamming the feed with low-quality content in large quantities is a violation of how you’re supposed to do things.

      Also, the slapfight was not removed. One side of it only was removed.

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        19 hours ago

        Doesn’t matter. If you make a meta petition thread next time you might have more luck. I don’t want to see flame wars enabled just because they get lots of upvotes. Make a petition post to ban users and raise awareness. Don’t put it in the comments.

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          17 hours ago

          If I had wanted to ban this user, I would have just done so, instead of talking about it. They’re on my instance (or were).

          I think talking out issues is a good thing. A lot of people are capable of doing that without it becoming some kind of big debacle. We might have been going in the “ban” direction, if the conversation really remained at an impasse, but the only part of the whole event that really irritated me and led to the post was the least blameworthy user getting a two-week ban, and the spam staying up. Oh, and also my stuff getting deleted and the spam staying up. Bro WTF.

          I know you and I have a difference of opinion on it, and that’s all good, but you’re not going to convince me that this user was not spamming, or that I need to respect the mod’s judgment about it when to me that judgement seems clearly not well-thought-out or credible.