cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/22392872

The word futa or futanari is a term I unfortunately see used against trans women and actual intersex people. It is a term which originated in porn and anime to describe someone with both types of genitals, usually though it just refers to someone who looks feminine and has a penis. So it’s no surprise it’s very often used to describe non-op trans women primarily. Because it’s often used in porn it carries strong connotations of sexualization and dehumanization, it reduces the person being called futa to an object of sexual desire and doesn’t respect them as a person.

This term is extremely disrespectful and really has no place being used, especially in reference to trans women. Additionally because of its relation to porn people who use it will almost certainly be seen as chasers.

  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 hours ago

    Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter what the history of the word is or how it should be used, because it has been popularised as a stand in term for porn involving trans women. And in English at least, that’s how it gets used against us. The vast majority of the time, it’s used in a sexualised and objectifying way that places the value of a trans woman entirely in her sexual characteristics.

    The words means what people mean when they use it, not what it used to mean or what it “should” mean.

    I have often times thought of myself as futanari.

    Gender diverse folk and intersex folk can absolutely use the language that best fits our needs. When it comes to slurs and sexualised terms, reclamation and ownership of terminology is a tool of power. But it needs to be opt in. You don’t use slurs and sexualised terms to describe folk you don’t know, or as a general stand in term for the whole gender diverse community.

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      10 hours ago

      I think that’s all reasonable. I should make it clear that I would never use futa or futanari to describe anyone without them telling me it’s okay. Effectively, I think that makes it controlled language, ergo a slur.

      I would like to maintain that the people who likely made futa and futanari into a slur are not Japanese themselves. Rather, they are American 4chan incel types, who consume that type of media in the first place and who are also transphobic. Blaming Japanese people for a loaned word becoming a slur is ridiculous.

      Also, if you were to try to reclaim futa or futanari, it’s probably best to add the honorific “o-” prefix to it. So, it would be お二形 or お二 or ofutanari or ofuta. Kinda silly and it will probably never take off in English use.

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        7 hours ago

        Rather, they are American 4chan incel types, who consume that type of media in the first place and who are also transphobic.

        Yep, it’s exactly that context this triggered this discussion.

        No one is blaming Japanese folk, nor even the term as used in Japanese. The context here is chasers that exist on lemmy that find and interact with trans communities, using terms like this