- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
Taking a look at what gets upvoted and what is downvoted to oblivion, it’s quite clear what the community at large wants.
We don’t want [email protected] to be just another “serious conservative comm” any longer, they have whole instances dedicated to their kind of “free speech” and other comms as well.
So to that end I have thrown my hat in the ring to be mod and steer this comm to be what people want it to be so show your support at https://lemmy.world/post/25837943
I have also typed out a proposed draft set of rules to keep things from “going off the rails”:
- Parody With Purpose: This is a space for humorous takes on conservative politics. We welcome satire, but draw the line at content that promotes racism, sexism, homophobia, or other forms of bigotry.
- Memes Over Manifestos: This community focuses on humor and parody, not serious political debate. There are plenty of spaces for earnest conservative discussion—this isn’t one of them.
- Highlight Contradictions: The best content points out inconsistencies and hypocrisies in conservative talking points. Creative commentary is encouraged.
- Public Figures Fair Game: Politicians and pundits can be satirized, but no targeting of private individuals, doxxing, or harassment.
- No News Zone: Memes only, news should be sent to the nearest relevant comm
- Clear Satire: Make your satirical intent reasonably clear. We’re here to mock bad ideas, not accidentally spread them.
- Relevant Content: All posts should relate to conservative politics or ideologies in some way.
- Community Respect: Disagree with fellow members all you want, but personal attacks aren’t welcome. Save the criticism for the ideas, not each other.
- Moderation Discretion: Mods will use reasonable judgment in applying these rules. We’ll be fair, but firm.
- Remember The Purpose: This community exists as a pressure valve—a place to process through humor the often frustrating world of conservative politics.
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It seems to me that no matter how serious, any present day “conservative” community will at the very least be constantly confused with Satire. In fact the more serious the participants are about it, the more likely that is to happen.
Self-satire is a genuine problem of what passes for a Conservative Ideology nowadays.
imagine being a conservative. the jokes write themselves
what does that even mean
Still its disturbing that breitbart articles, an OG nazi propaganda outlet, are allowed on lemmy.world
I think this comm was the only one of import that allowed them, if I become a mod they will be swiftly removed from here. (I mean I’ll be removing all the news links as per my proposed draft rules, but I’ll be removing Breitbart with extra glee lol)
Cm0002 for presi…eh mod!
I’m glad someone is seriously considering this. It would be nice to moderate the garbage they think is true. If they want lies and hate there’s plenty of places to get that from. I just hope you can withstand the hate coming to your inbox. If you get it good luck.
I still think conservatives deserve a place on Lemmy and in Lemmy.world where incivility and misinformation can be properly moderated.
The pervious mods of the conservative communities have proven they can’t be fair and unbiased.
If you look at their hilariouschaos community you can see they are still heavy-handed and thin-skinned more apt to moderate based on feelings than fact.
I’m still volunteering to run this and/or lemm.ee’s community as a proper conservative community.
The problem is I don’t think the userbase does. Since the community was created, content was downvoted and negative conversations took place within it.
The TOS clearly states “Lemmy.World specifically forbids any sort of discrimination against queer groups on this site” yet Conservative political policy does appear to be discriminating against queer groups thus a Conservative community is, per TOS, not allowed to discuss and support their own party’s policies.
I agree with you in sentiment, SatansMaggotyCumFart, that this instance should be accepting and welcoming of political discussion with those of opposing views.
That said, current opposing views go strongly against the views upon which this instance was founded.
For that reason, and it seems clear the userbase also agrees, I believe it would be in the interest of this instance to repurpose this community into one where Conservatism can be discussed through the perspective of the userbase we have. And that seems to be memes that critique conservatism.
I agree with fartsparkles who agrees with SatansMaggotyCumFart
edit, that was a joke for the names but I kinda disagree …ish. I don’t think actual conservatives that come in good faith really exist
It would have like 2 people that post stuff that gets tons of downvotes, like every conservative sub on Lemmy so far. I don’t see how it would be any different to what has already been tried 🤷♀️
where incivility and misinformation can be properly moderated. The pervious mods of the conservative communities have proven they can’t be fair and unbiased.
Removing incivility and misinformation would just mean no posts. I have never once seen any conservative community actually discuss free market trade or effective use of tax dollars. It is always just a safe haven for trolls spreading hate, acting in bad faith, and hiding behind “free speech” and “different opinions”.
I’m sure the conservatives can and will have civil discussions based in fact.
Why are you sure?
Good, fair and balanced moderation.
In a conservative forum…? Uh-huh. Are there fairies and unicorns there too?
They’d be welcome to participate too if they’re civil and don’t deny large groups of people basic human rights.
I see your point, but last I saw there were (excluding .worlds one) 2 “proper” conservative comms and 2 instances (comms on .ee, SJW and for instances HilariousChaos and iirc reddthat) and those are just what showed up from a quick search which is kinda unreliable sometimes so there are likely more
The way I envisioned it was that eventually would try to reign in one of the others and this one would just be the parody meme comm focused on conservatives (globally too! Conservative ideals aren’t just confined to the US) with [email protected] serving as a more generalist political meme comm and .ee/SJWs versions serving as the “proper/ serious” comms (should reasonable conservative talking point be found)
Start a conservative parody community, then.
You can call it The Lemmy Report.
I think the truth is there are hardly any actual conservatives around here and in general there are barely any ideological conservatives at all. Most people are conservative for reasons other than reason (religion, family, local community, etc).
What’s more shocking to me are the number of conflict theorists around here.
How can you tell the difference?
That’s the neat part:
You can’t!Conservatism is an unserious ideology - an auto-satirizing parody of itself.
“Things were better when they were worse!” 🤡 💩
The whole idea of conservativism is to hold us back and slow us down, mfs hate on ppl from the dark ages but love being conservative
Lemmy conservatives aren’t exactly quiet, at worst a quick look at their profile will tell you if they’re being serious or not
Plus, proposed rule 6: Clear Satire: Make your satirical intent reasonably clear.
So if I truly can’t tell, you’ll be asked to clarify or it’ll be removed
Please be generous in applying that rule and rather delete than let something vile stand.
Far too many things start as just a joke and then other people join and don’t think it’s a joke and then you get something like r/thedonald.
Oh I know, I’ve been on Reddit for a long time so I know how quickly it can devolve without good care
I will definitely be leaning “better safe than sorry”. Removed posts can always be restored if it was truly satire, damage done from a serious hateful post left up too long cant
this is a valid concern. ty for mentioning.
I like it. And have subscribed. I was seeing these these posts, hesitantly clicked, finding m/conservative to be humorous, and encouraging.
Thanks! Hopefully I’ll become a mod and keep the memes flowing lol
I’ve emailed them before the request was even made, and those mfs left me on read 😞
OP if you need more mods let me know, I’ll be more than glad to lmao xd
Clear Satire: Make your satirical intent reasonably clear. We’re here to mock bad ideas, not accidentally spread them.
Personally I really dislike most political ‘parody’ content and discussion because if I’m only getting a very distorted strawman version of an idea, that’s not doing me any favors in being able to argue against the real thing, or being clear on what about it I might object to. If you’re going to regard bad ideas as infohazards that can’t be viewed as they are, there’s not much point in talking about them at all.
iabt
edit that means i agree big time i think rule 6 is stupid
how can I support this?
https://lemmy.world/post/25837943 is to my request post on [email protected]
Leave a comment and an updoot so the admins can see the public support, thanks!
done
The only rule I have an “issue” with is rule #3.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Only one side cares about hypocrisy and it isn’t conservatives. Pointing it out doesn’t really provide meaningful parody, IMO.
I think rule 5 should be clarified that there should be no news links. Memes to current events, I suspect, would be welcome.
There used to be a satirical Facebook group called “Christians for Michelle Bachman” that was fucking hilarious. I hope this community turns into something like that.
Thank you for your service
I’m not a conservative but I find this whole thing to be ridiculous. The whole ass Lemmy website is a giant left wing circle jerk of epic proportions. Y’all are shitting on them in every thread of every sub regardless of the subs relationship to politics.
Do you really need ANOTHER place to post the same memes again and again?
This OP that does 90% of the shitposting here now seems to fuckin live on Lemmy. Guy has been averaging almost 4 posts a day and almost 7 comments a day every day since he joined Lemmy.
We get it. You hate conservatives. So do 99% of the people here. You don’t need to copy and paste all the memes aimed at conservatives from all the other subs into this one.
Do you really need ANOTHER place to post the same memes again and again?
Yes
I would like to know where these “reasonable conservatives” are?
Because all the ones I’ve seen spew misinformation, hate & bigotry, literal Nazism or defend the ones who do. .ee conservative mods literally got removed by ee admins because of the pure hate they allowed to fester.
I’ve seen a couple of the Lemmy conservatives outright stating they like Trump “as a king” and what he’s doing. The most fascist president in history.
I would like to know where these “reasonable conservatives” are
They aren’t on Lemmy anymore because the millisecond anyone even sniffs an idea that isn’t full blown left y’all lose your fuckin minds and ban them or censor them.
I got banned from like 12 subs at once for calling Kanye West retarded.
I’m a moderate/centrist (whatever you want to call it) that leans left and y’all downvote me or outright ban me all the fuckin time.
It’s people like YOU that prevent new users from joining the site that might have any opinions other than the ones you already have.
Yeah, there’s a reason. Act like a shit and fling ableist slurs and people aren’t going to want you around.
You also aren’t moderate.
Oh really? What am I then?
Since you apparently know everything about me.
Bog standard conservative with a dislike of certain minorities.
Ooooooo swing and a miss. Try again.
Never been a conservative in my life. Voted blue every single election except this last one (protest vote in California so don’t blame this shit on me).
not everything on the internet is for you. even if you’re #not-like-the-other-freethinking-independents, people aren’t required to accept or like what you say. you can either read the room and change how you say stuff, or you can just keep quiet, or you can leave. no one’s making anyone a hostage on discussion boards. we can all walk away anytime we feel like it. it’s called being a grown up in a society. leave or go start your own “this word is okay to say club”. you haven’t been arrested for saying retarded, you were simply kicked out of a chat group. whoopty doo.
Yeah I don’t really give a shit about being banned from all those subs I never even went to anyways. I was more using it to prove my point that Lemmy has a comically bad mod abuse problem in one direction. Even on reddit I was never banned from 10+ subs simultaneously for one comment on one sub.
I recognize that not everything on the Internet is “for me” I never made that argument at all. I was simply pointing out that on Lemmy there are an unlimited number of subs that already post the exact same garbage that cm002 has been spamming here for the last few days.
Not every sub on Lemmy needs to post the same exact crap 24/7. I appreciated the rare conservative or moderate spotting as a sight for sore eyes in the ocean of far left spam that Lemmy hosts daily.
agree to disagree.
Lemmy does lean left everywhere else, but it’s all serious af “dystopia is here” stuff.
this community reborn with the amazing effort from @[email protected] has brought some much needed humor and lightheartednes.
subbed!
cm002 is (probably) unemployed based on how frequently he posts and comments.
He just spams shit that’s been posted somewhere else.
He’s like Lemmy’s very own shitty version of gallowboob.
Looks like I’ll have to block this too. I want serious discussions on conservative issues, not mocking and exaggerate to absurdity then pretend that is what conservatives believe.
They would have to post some serious content first for that to work.
Every time I do it gets heavily down voted. It is quite clear conservative positions are not welcome on Lemmy. Just look at your post vs mine for example.
There is no reason for my comments here to be controversial at all here, and yet it is unwelcome. Meanwhile your comment which makes a false claim (if you can’t find serious conservative content that is you are not looking - unless you are strictly referring to lemmy where such content is unwelcome and so of course you won’t see it) gets lots of upvotes.
believe what you want, but your parties side with racists and arseholes every time, so sucks to be you.
Who said anything about any party? There is no conservative party anymore. There are some claiming that, but they all hold positions that are not conservative.
If you are thinking the republicans - I left them long ago.
Bye!
