Basically, I’m 25M and never had a real job. 2 days ago, my father just had a CVA and it’s at death’s door, having been the only income for our family his whole life. While he was a god awful parent to me, he did give us everything we needed, and he was a great dad to my sisters.

Now that he’s about to die, we not only lost our only provider, but he’s leaving us with a huge debt to pay (over 3M in local coin, around 3k USD) due to all the loans he took the last 2 years to buy fancy stuff for himself and my sisters, and being the older brother, it falls on me to bring the food to the table.

I honestly don’t know what to do at this point, I feel overwhelmed by all the sudden responsibilities, and running away isn’t an option, I can’t bring myself to leave my sisters and mother behind.

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    Edit to add that this is not legal advice.

    First, IANL, get legal advice from an estate attorney in your area. Doing so will likely save you a shitload of money and financial hardship.

    Don’t know where you live but it’s worth finding out if the debt is in his name only, and if it is, the legal status after he dies. In the US at least, I believe you have no obligation to take on the debt of a deceased person. If it’s tied to physical property like a house that’s different, and if that’s the case you may be able choose to not accept ownership/inheritance of the property with the debt attached to it thus avoiding the debt burden.

    Again. IANL. Get legal advice from an estate attorney

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      In the US, debt usually comes out of the estate, but that’s not necessarily the case when there’s a surviving spouse. That is, if your only remaining parent died with 3M in debt, and all of their assets had a combined value of 500k, in most cases the creditor would apply that debt to the estate, and the remaining debt would be cancelled. (Althouth they’d likely try to get you to pay anyways.) But if your mom is a survivor, and they held the estate jointly, the creditors probably can not do things like take the house in probate.

      But you def. need to get an attorney here.

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      My understanding of US debt inheritance is that the debtor can claim up to the value of the debt from the estate, but if the debt is more than the value of the estate they can’t go after anyone else for it unless their name was also attached to the debt.

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      Many of the debts are on physical assets,some like a huge TV he bought last year to watch sports I already had plans to return t, but others like a fridge he bought to replace the old one we had after it broke or the PC my sisters use to study are needed, I can’t simply leave those out without having a way to replace them.

      Also, the house we are right now isn’t ours, we’re renting, and the contract last until June, and that would be another 500k that we don’t have.

      Edit: Not USD, sorry. Head is a mess and I’m mixing things up.

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        Again, IANL, see an estate attorney, none of this is legal advice.

        Were those things actually purchased with a loan against them as collateral, or with a credit card or other unsecured credit?

        Credit card purchases are usually unsecured debt. So even if the fridge or TV were purchased with a credit card, they likely will not actually have a lien against them.

        That being said, depending in how estate law works where you live, his estate and all property/effects he owned may have to go towards paying off any debt.

        If he gifts ownership of items to you or someone else before he passes (and documents the gifting for physical proof), then it may be possible to keep some items that may otherwise go towards settling the eatate.

        You need to see an estate attorney asap. Before he passes.

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          I just asked my mom, he took MANY loans from different banks to supposedly “sustain the household”, but ultimately burned through the money buying the PC, fridge, etc. Aparently, it’s way more than I had knowledge of, since I knew about the latest ones, but she told this has been happening since 2 years ago, and it checks out with the when we changed phones, my nephew’s TV, a bike and other things.

          Also, mom refuses to talk with any attorney until after he dies, saying it would only jinx it. I sort of understand it, she’s still cleaning the bedroom and clothes to bring him back, even after the doctor told us it’s not likely he’ll survive a week.

          EDIT: also, the govt here apparently passed a law many years ago that prohibits nullifying debts due to people taking advantage of it to make huge buying sprees in the name of elder people, and then getting to keep the assets due to the debtor dying before they finish paying. I’m not sure about how true this is, but I do remember seeing something about it on the news when I was younger.