Its also not a gaming device, as it doesnt have a dedicated gpu. It only has an APU and some AI core bullshit. Its worthless e waste and not really fit for this community imo.
Yeah no, you will not be gaming any modern 3D game on that. A game console also cant be compared to a desktop machine like this properly in terms of software optimization.
So its just a standard rasterization gpu with some extra AI label slapped on it then? Because then buying this is even dumber than i thought. Might aswell just buy a standard gpu for half the money with double the performance.
I admit i didnt even look at the specs of that thing, because i have trained myself to see anything with an AI label on it as worthless scams. So yeah i guess you can game on it, but its the worst value gaming device i have ever seen. So advising people against buying it is still the right thing to do.
I wouldn’t advise gamers to buy one in general, but there’s absolutely a market for them. See https://rog.asus.com/desktops/mini-pc/rog-nuc/ and the broader SFFPC subculture for evidence of that.
Does Baldur’s Gate III count as a “modern 3D game” to you? Because that runs at perfectly acceptable frame rates on my Lenovo Legion Go, whose Z1 Extreme is definitely less powerful than this.
Point is, we have had comparable systems for years that you can buy for less money, and are actually repairable and upgradable. Here’s one in a similar form factor (with a 4060) that was built a year ago: https://youtu.be/P2CUi9W2DI0
Point is, we have had comparable systems for years that you can buy for less money, and are actually repairable and upgradable.
Actually, it’s not a point to the part I’ve replied to. The statement was solely that this APU-using PC must not be called a gaming device and I’ve pointed out the flaw in that claim. I did not make a comment regarding upgadability.
It’s extremely gaming-capable and it is a PC. You can argue it’s not in the traditional mould of gaming PC’s if you want, but it’s by any reasonable definition a “Gaming PC”.
Its also not a gaming device, as it doesnt have a dedicated gpu. It only has an APU and some AI core bullshit. Its worthless e waste and not really fit for this community imo.
That is some acrobatic gatekeeping of a GPU that is similar to the PS5 in terms of performance.
The top model should be far more powerful than a PS5.
Yeah no, you will not be gaming any modern 3D game on that. A game console also cant be compared to a desktop machine like this properly in terms of software optimization.
lol, lmao
So its just a standard rasterization gpu with some extra AI label slapped on it then? Because then buying this is even dumber than i thought. Might aswell just buy a standard gpu for half the money with double the performance.
Mate, I can’t see the goalposts anymore you’ve moved them so far.
I admit i didnt even look at the specs of that thing, because i have trained myself to see anything with an AI label on it as worthless scams. So yeah i guess you can game on it, but its the worst value gaming device i have ever seen. So advising people against buying it is still the right thing to do.
I wouldn’t advise gamers to buy one in general, but there’s absolutely a market for them. See https://rog.asus.com/desktops/mini-pc/rog-nuc/ and the broader SFFPC subculture for evidence of that.
No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_processing_unit
Does Baldur’s Gate III count as a “modern 3D game” to you? Because that runs at perfectly acceptable frame rates on my Lenovo Legion Go, whose Z1 Extreme is definitely less powerful than this.
Like every somewhat modern game console.
Yeah, why would frame generation have anything to do with gaming…
Edit: typo
If integrated graphics counts as a “gaming PC” then every PC and laptop made in the past 15 years, including Chromebooks count as a “Gaming PC”.
Yeah, why would an iGPU so beefy, it’s in the same league as a GeForce 4060 be called a gaming GPU? OUTRAGEOUS!
Also, Unexposedhazard used the term “gaming device”.
Point is, we have had comparable systems for years that you can buy for less money, and are actually repairable and upgradable. Here’s one in a similar form factor (with a 4060) that was built a year ago: https://youtu.be/P2CUi9W2DI0
Actually, it’s not a point to the part I’ve replied to. The statement was solely that this APU-using PC must not be called a gaming device and I’ve pointed out the flaw in that claim. I did not make a comment regarding upgadability.
It’s extremely gaming-capable and it is a PC. You can argue it’s not in the traditional mould of gaming PC’s if you want, but it’s by any reasonable definition a “Gaming PC”.
So, by that metric, the Steam Deck, Lenovo Legion Go and ROG Ally are laptops I guess.