• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    “American values” are just a smokescreen, they aren’t failed, more they serve their purpose of obfuscation well.

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      4 hours ago

      Nah man, Americans have values. Freedom, perseverance, independence, self expression. It’s just that we have utterly failed to uphold those values in our actions. Even in the beginning, talking about slavery being terrible but still allowing it for political reasons right at the founding.

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        3 hours ago

        Those values only really served as a way for the ruling class that founded America to justify itself. They weren’t genuine.

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          12 minutes ago

          I’m talking about the shared cultural values of the society we have today, views shared by most Americans. Most Americans like free speech. Most Americans like liberty. Et cetera and so on. These are things that are part of our culture. You aren’t any less of a person for recognizing that these are values that are held by this culture.

          I am also saying that despite culturally sharing in these values, our society also fails to actually support them in very big ways.