• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 hours ago

    To be clear, I am not defending them. I am just pointing out bad logic because it leads to bad beliefs and opinions.

    Unfortunately, these people are Americans, and there’s a whole bunch of them. There is no value whatsoever in trying to argue otherwise.

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      16 hours ago

      All I’m trying to say is that fascism is decidedly un-American

      Unfortunately that seems to be changing. It’s almost as if this country learned nothing 80 years ago

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        14 hours ago

        i know you’ve probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.

        America has always been this.

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          Not to mention the US also always had a nazi problem. There was enough before we joined ww2 to fill up Madison square garden in protest. They just went quiet when we joined the war and it Became unamerican to be a nazi. And that’s not even counting the nazi scientists that moved here after the war.

          They’ve just been around waiting for people to forget and become more radical to make their moves

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        16 hours ago

        Yeah I dunno about all that… Hitler famously got most of his ideas from America. He modeled a lot of Nazi Germany after Jim Crow, and all the eugenics stuff originated in the US and was big in the academic community prior to WW2.

        We even had a massive conspiracy by corporations to take down FDR and install a fascist dictator. George W. Bush’s grandfather was literally involved.

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          16 hours ago

          I suppose you’re right that bringing nationality into it probably wasn’t the best idea.

          This is still unacceptable though