The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he’s in isn’t accommodating his vegan diet.

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    rehabilitation or whatever the europeans call it

    My god dude you’re like a walking parody. Please stop giving the US a bad name.

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      I have no shame in the believing prison can be used as a punishment. Shouldn’t be the only thing it’s used for, but it’s what this fella needs.

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        Oh for sure, punishment is historically a super effective solution after all.

        Huh? Recidivism? What’s that?

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          If SBF would reoffend I’d gladly pay the taxes to give him another twenty years of sandwiches. I don’t care about healing this man.

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            Good for you, but I’d rather my money not be wasted on petty spite and draconian bullshit. I’d rather it actually go towards something useful, like rehabilitating people so they can be better and contribute to society.

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              Well, I’d rather my tax money not be wasted denying people justice just to satisfy authoritarian twits like yourself, but who am I to disagree with you? I’m just a lowly meat-eater while all he did was steal billions from innocent people, taking away their retirements, and we all know we lowly meat-eaters don’t mean as much as the fluffy squirrels and singing birds you think are your friends.

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                denying people justice

                So you agree that the is is solely about people wanting blood, solely out of spite, and doesn’t actually serve any tangible purpose? Glad we’ve got that figured out.

                An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, my friend.

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                  Holy shit, did you dig that strawman from the set of a bad 90’s action movie or are you just happy to see me?

                  Did you know that doing what’s right has its own intrinsic value and needs to be done for its own sake, and that not everything has to have a tangible, materialistic value? And that our inner, intrinsic, immaterial needs are just as valid as, if not more important in many ways, than our material ones?

                  By your logic, we shouldn’t have space programs either, because those are largely about national prestige and dick-waving competitions at the U.N.

                  By your logic, we shouldn’t have art either, because art doesn’t have any real tangible value or purpose aside from what people assign to it. It literally only exists to make people feel better, yet here you are, arguing that anything with an immaterial purpose is therefore invalid.

                  Should we have no history either? History doesn’t put food on our plates or pays our rent either, and when pressed, history buffs can give only nebulous, vague allusions to intrinsic, immaterial value their field provides, too, yet here you are.

                  So you agree that you’re just concern trolling, hoping that by stereotyping anyone who demands justice as some 90’s revenge movie stereotype that you can smear and discredit them, so you can do away with the notion of justice?

                  So you agree that you oppose justice?

                  No one even said anything about an eye for an eye. Denying someone vegan meals in prison isn’t ripping their eyes out. Neither would imprisoning that fat fuck for life either. Even killing him wouldn’t be that.

                  You may be opposed to the idea and the cause of justice, but the rest of the world is not, and you need to seriously sit down with yourself and seriously reflect on what it is you’re doing and what you hope to accomplish here, because what you’re doing is wrong.

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                    Did you know that doing what’s right has its own intrinsic value and needs to be done for its own sake, and that not everything has to have a tangible, materialistic value?

                    Something being “right” is entirely subjective, and personally I don’t think that punishing people without purpose fits that definition.

                    By your logic, we shouldn’t have art either, because art doesn’t have any real tangible value or purpose aside from what people assign to it

                    My logic is that if an action needlessly hurts another, it shouldn’t be done. Not sure how art hurts others. The same goes for your space example. And your history example.

                    Also, you realize that what you did just then was a strawman… right? Because I never made the argument that nothing is worth doing without having some tangible result. I argued that we shouldn’t hurt people for no other reason than spite.

                    So you agree that you’re just concern trolling

                    Wtf is concern trolling? Lmao just another weird label to dismiss opinions that differ from your own? Gotcha.

                    No one even said anything about an eye for an eye. Denying someone vegan meals in prison isn’t ripping their eyes out

                    …you know that “an eye for an eye” doesn’t mean literally just eyes, right? It means that revenge leads to nothing but further suffering.

                    but the rest of the world is not

                    Are you sure about that? Because the rest of the modern world doesn’t have capital punishment. It’s literally only us and some 3rd world countries. Clearly people are moving away from barbarism and draconian, ineffective punishments.

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              He stole 8 billion dollars from ordinary people. Maybe when he’s rehabilitated you can let him manage your money.

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                  No one is obligated to or wants to rehabilitate him or people like him. We respect their agency to make their own choices, and in return they accept the deleterious consequences if they choose to do horrific shit. Like this fuck you’re using to push your agenda.

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                    Lmao who are you speaking for? No one wants to rehabilitate people because you say so? Who is this “we”?

                    And christ, man, accusing me of pushing an agenda? How cliche can you get? This is literally just my opinion - me voicing it isn’t “pushing my agenda”.