• cows_are_underrated@feddit.org
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      20 hours ago

      You do know, that Poland has been recorded to perform pushbacks on its borders? And now you can guess why people dont want to enter the country through official ways. Also a lot of refugees dont want to seek asylum in Poland, but in other EU countries so entering through official ways might be suboptimal for them.

      Also simply saying “Just enter the country through official ways” disregards the situation those refugees are often I to where they have to fear to get pushed back to Die in the wild. No matter what you will do people will always use unofficial ways.

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        9 hours ago

        You do know, that Poland has been recorded to perform pushbacks on its borders?

        Yes, I live here.

        And now you can guess why people dont want to enter the country through official ways.

        No, I don’t, it has nothing to do with pushbacks. Pushbacks were for those who were trying to cross the border illegally in the first place.

        Also a lot of refugees dont want to seek asylum in Poland, but in other EU countries so entering through official ways might be suboptimal for them.

        Suboptimal?! You know what, tell me your address. I will steal your car because earning money to buy myself my own is suboptimal for me. And maybe we also should provide free healthcare to poor Americans in Europe because them paying for their own is suboptimal for them.

        Crossing a border of any EU country is synonymous with entering EU as a whole. Polish border is EU border.

        disregards the situation those refugees

        They have chosen to enter Belarus or Russia, they were given protection on Russian and Belarusian territory already, why not stay there if this is only about survival? They are no longer refugees when entering Poland, they are migrants and as such are no longer protected under the same rules. And this is what you are describing, choosing a destination country not to escape harm in the first place but to seek one with better social benefits. In this scenario I see no reason for them to forcefully enter EU illegally without following our laws: again, they were already allowed to enter Russian and/or Belarusian territory and have escaped the immediate threat if they really are refugees.

        https://emergency.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/2023-05/UNHCR%2C Refugees and Migrants - Frequently Asked Questions%2C Aug 2018.pdf

        Now, if we talk about Ukrainian refugees, I did not hear any of them complaining about pushbacks or being deported or about mines being deployed on our border. You know why? Because they are civilized people who know how to behave and how to properly cross a border.

        And we provided help for almost a million of them.