Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It’s almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it’s also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly “open borders”, I’m more interested on best approach aside from that.
I suppose it would (have been) a good start to not cause the refugee wave by not fucking up the middle east. but now that’s done, and can’t be undone.
what could be undone i guess would be to be reluctant to give out citizenship. Without citizenship, it’s a lot less attractive to stay in a country long-term, because citizenship essentially grants right to residence and social safety net, while a temporary residence permit does not.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
You’re framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be “how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?”. What’s the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: “how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?”.
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don’t make any trouble, you’re almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration? It’s almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it’s also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly “open borders”, I’m more interested on best approach aside from that.
I suppose it would (have been) a good start to not cause the refugee wave by not fucking up the middle east. but now that’s done, and can’t be undone.
what could be undone i guess would be to be reluctant to give out citizenship. Without citizenship, it’s a lot less attractive to stay in a country long-term, because citizenship essentially grants right to residence and social safety net, while a temporary residence permit does not.
allow them to work so ease the financial burden. Integrate them instead of trying to get rid of them.
You’re framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be “how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?”. What’s the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: “how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?”.
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don’t make any trouble, you’re almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
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