It’s not about the providers, it’s about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let’s be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.
And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.
Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven’t looked at yet) but am told it’s pretty good. More open and more choice is great.
This is why you give notice; this isn’t an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.
Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.
I’m not saying I’m against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.
Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I’m sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don’t have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn’t spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn’t always easy.
I’m with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it’s painful.
Yeah, we’ve got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They’d rather pay the Danegeld.
That entirely depends on who deeply they’ve locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it’d take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.
The real money is in AWS, azure,GCP. No one cares about your iPad. Tariff the big 3 hosting providers and see how quickly shit hits the fan.
Put a tariff on the companies that was pro-Trump, and who was at his inauguration.
Would probably end the Internet faster than China can cut intercontinental cables. I’m here for it but the fallout would be positively insane.
From the ashes maybe a better internet will emerge then. The current one is very dogshit and only going worse.
Where do I sign up for newgrounds 2.0?
There are plenty of providers, this is a little reactionary. I’ve worked with a local data center for hosting in every state I’ve lived in.
It’s not about the providers, it’s about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let’s be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.
And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.
inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you’d already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.
100%
Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven’t looked at yet) but am told it’s pretty good. More open and more choice is great.
This is why you give notice; this isn’t an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.
Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.
I’m not saying I’m against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.
Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I’m sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don’t have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn’t spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn’t always easy.
I’m with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it’s painful.
I’d double my mortgage just to see microsoft365 crumble.
But you love teams right?! (get the gas can - I’ll get the matches)
I love to wish it on my worst enemies.
There is no feature that is simpler than gsuite. So much duplication and needless services and apps.
I hate google and microsoft for making me appreciate their product.
Or they’ll just pay the extra money and avoid all that.
That is pretty much how the VMware situation shook out.
Yeah, we’ve got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They’d rather pay the Danegeld.
That entirely depends on who deeply they’ve locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it’d take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.
Source: I’ve done it.
This is mostly the problem in a lot of cases. A lot of companies don’t pay you to be smart… they pay you to be “efficient” which normally means cheap.
Good and skilled people may be in a lot of these companies… but their hands may be tied in terms of choices.
Of course it would not.
Bonus: It might make some companies move to non-US hosters, making their data way safer.
I’ve switched to Hetzner and I’m super happy. Fuck DigitalOcean and their ever increasing prices.
I’m at Hetzner für 10-15 years now.