Fifa has suspended Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales from all football-related activities following his conduct at the Women’s World Cup final in Sydney

  • TopShelfVanilla
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    Well, let’s see how exactly it is that you feel when a man in a position of authority over you grabs you by the head and kisses you against your will. And I will have you know that neither of my children have ever been made to accept affection that they did not want because I learned from my upbringing, I didn’t just parrot it.

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      I was a Catholic altar boy. I assure you, I know the feeling.

      Again, it’s gross and inappropriate, not sexual assault.

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        Except is exactly fits the legal definition of sexual assault.

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          legal definition

          For what jurisdiction? There’s not one legal definition. Every country, and every state in the US, has their own definitions.

          My state, for example, defines it as (paraphrasing) unwanted contact with intimate areas for the purpose of sexual gratification or humiliation, or to intentionally harm. It’s a bit subjective and open to interpretation, but there’s no way anyone would get convicted under this statute for a short, closed-mouth celebratory kiss.

          Again, it’s assault, and it’s gross and inappropriate, but it doesn’t meet all the elements of sexual assault.

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            Why are you bringing up the US? This happened in Spain so that’s the only jurisdiction that matters

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              And guess what the Spanish criminal codes definition of sexual assault is? Unwanted sexual contact.

              A kiss is not inherently sexual. Wtf do you people not understand.

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                Nice deflection attempt but nah.

                U need to learn about consent bro.

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                  No, you need better reading comprehension.

                  Unwanted contact = assault

                  Unwanted sexual contact = sexual assault

                  A kiss is not inherently sexual, therefore an unwanted kiss is assault, not sexual assault. Inappropriate and gross isn’t automatically sexual.

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                    You are rule-smithing for absolute degens. Just stop touching people dude

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault

            Sexual assault takes many forms including attacks such as rape or attempted rape, as well as any unwanted sexual contact or threats. Usually a sexual assault occurs when someone touches any part of another person’s body in a sexual way, even through clothes, without that person’s consent.

            The only person I ever kiss with both hands on their head is my wife, when I am being intimate with her.

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              in a sexual way,

              Did you skip over this?

              A kiss is not inherently sexual. Is a mother’s kiss incest? I have a picture of my nephews kissing, is that CP? Hell, dudes in some parts of the world kiss their friends, on the lips, as a greeting.

              Gross and inappropriate conduct isn’t automatically sexual.

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                Stop the cap, mate. It wasn’t a mother kissing their child or a friend kissing another friend. It was a grown fucking man, kissing a grown fucking woman. They obviously aren’t friends or lovers. Ofc it’s sexual, doesn’t matter if 'not all kisses are inherently sexual, this one was.

              • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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                Did you miss the part where he’s never kissed a man like that? His country has had lots of men being presented with great accomplishments. He has awarded those men those awards without ever kissing them like he does here

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            For what jurisdiction?

            For one, the Spanish jurisdiction, that is the one that applies to this case. Arguing that other countries have backwards laws is irrelevant to the matter at hand.