A University of South Carolina student was shot and killed as he apparently tried to enter the wrong home on his off-campus street early on Saturday, police said.
Nicholas Anthony Donofrio, 20, of Connecticut, was dead by the time police responded to reports of a home burglary and shooting, according to a Columbia Police Department news release. Officers found his body on a front porch around 2 a.m., and Donofrio had a gunshot wound to his upper body, the release said.
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You may be a “responsible gun owner,” but, overall, the US gun culture is completely ridiculous. A society that has people living in such fear that they feel the need to be armed and ready at all time is a failed society in my book.
I agree. Why I moved from a blue city to a red city. The crime is so much less here. It isn’t irrational fear when the crime is real.
There aren’t any red cities in the US. Certainly not big ones.
Do you think the crime is lower because the city is smaller or because it’s red?
It’s definitely the red culture. The north part of the city is more blue. The crime is rampant. The south part is more red. Much less crime. People know we will call the police in the south. Blue cities need to figure out police are needed but need to be retrained. I’ve been working with my police chief on doing that. I’m working to show how to improve our community policing model.
If permissive gun laws made places safer, America would be the safest country in the world by a large margin.
Instead, it’s crime rate is roughly the same as any other wealthy country, just with a layer of extreme gun violence on top.
We’ve waited 20 years for pro-gun bullshit to come true and it hasn’t made an inch of progress. People are being murdered the the street and authoritarians have never had more political power.
Crime isn’t the same across all of America.
The area I live in is very safe. Everywhere I’ve lived has been fairly safe.
The solution is more police in the crime ridden areas to bring them the safety they deserve.
Yes we’ve seen your awkward talking point 50 times already. You moved to a “red city” and theres no crime and the police regularly ask if you’re in need of fellating and we’ll just have to take your word for it because you’ve never said it’s name.
I’m sure it’s very very convincing to people who have never looked at wealth, education and healthcare rankings ordered by how right wing a place is.
I never said no crime. I said lower crime.
Safer areas tend to more affluent. Crime doesn’t pay.
Crime usually has root causes like poverty, inequality, poor education, etc.
If you look at Europe, the crime rate is much lower than in the US. Gun violence is near non-existent outside of gang-related crime.
Most of Europe would be deep, deep blue if transferred to the US political scale. They have heavy gun control and redistribution of wealth results in much less financial inequality. In turn, it causes much lower crime rates.
I don’t think US crime rates have anything to do with culture. It has to do with rampant inequality and easy access to weapons. Combine that with mental health issues, and you got a real toxic cocktail.
If you look here, you’ll see the total crime rate is higher in Europe than America.
https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2017-Crime-Statistics-Comparison-between-EU-and-US.pdf
For some reason people think Europe has less crime which isn’t true. I’m much more likely to be assaulted in Europe than I am in America.
We have murder problem but it’s very isolated.
Europe has a lot of petty theft issues. Always have had.
In this thread, we were specifically talking about gun violence, which is through the roof in the US and almost non-existent in Europe. It’s also the most dangerous type of crime, which often turns otherwise non-violent, petty crimes deadly.
And for some reason, conservatives don’t want to look at the tools being used for gun violence. The guns.
Most of the people killing each other are not conservatives. As a conservative, I don’t want to restrict my constitutional rights. I would prefer we focused on solving the crime issue. In the 90’s, Biden pushed for longer prison sentences, more police, and more enforcement of the laws, which saw our murder rate decline. We need to do that again.
Did you even make it to the end of that paper? It openly states that the discrepancies could be due to flawed data or that fact that widespread firearm ownership has resulted in criminals that will straight up execute you if things get out of hand.
Congratulations, you traded “having your phone stolen” for “having your child die screaming in agony on their classroom floor because a legal gun owner shot them in the spine”.
I’m fine with the compromise. All studies point out possible flaws. Nothing new.
Shooting someone for knocking on your door is pretty fucking irrational to me, it has nothing to do with blue or red, neither party forced them to push the trigger.
The article is really light on details - all I see is the guy was trying to enter the wrong house and was dead on the front porch. Hopefully (for lack of a better term), the student was actively entering the house and threatening the shooter. Maybe he was shot in the doorway and collapsed on the porch, or was shot inside the house and retreated to the porch before collapsing.
And, of course, it could be a psycho who just shot at the first perception of a possible threat.
Situation sucks no matter what.
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I hear you. I’m trying to be hopeful, but agree there is a good chance the shooter was looking for a reason to shoot.
Drunk students try end to up in the wrong house worryingly often actually. Anyone who’s live near off campus housing has had someone on their it their neighbor’s porch.
Yeah, that’s my first assumption when a college student is coming home after midnight. Especially if something bad happens.
Who cares what you would do? Those aren’t laws, they’re your personal suggestions that nobody is required to follow. Expecting gun owners to regulate themselves is clearly an abject failure.
Do you own a car?
Just curious, because cars kill more people than guns do. If I look through your comment/post history, will I see whether or not you’re a hypocrite?
Oh, and if you don’t live in the United States then shut the fuck up because you don’t understand what you’re talking about.
Edit: wow, fucking wild, dude has almost every single one of his comments centered on gun violence. Not a single fucking mention of cars killing people. Wild how you’ve fixated on the political topic and not one of the actual leading causes of death in the U.S.
Weird how the closest guns come to being a leading cause of death in the U.S. is suicide.
Why aren’t you talking about things that are actually killing large amounts of people?
Yes but I only drive it when I’m completely sober, fully rested and wholly undistracted, like a responsible driver. I don’t see why we need all these laws and enforcement when we can just ask new drivers to pinkie promise they’ll be as cool and responsible and well endowed as I am. You may begin your applause whenever you deem it appropriate.
Of course, for my sarcasm to be accurate, I’d need to be telling this to people commenting on a news story about a drunk driver killing 4 people, and it would have to be the latest in a chain of daily drink driving fatalities that killed more than 4 people and drink driving would have to be legal.
Yeah, America doesn’t need any fuckin advice about how to reduce gun violence from people who have reduced gun violence! They don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about!
Let me guess, you also think that pedophiles should determine the age of consent? After all, they’re the experts on having sex with kids. What would I know, having had sex with exactly 0 children?
Or is your “only the problem is entitled to offer solutions” logic strictly for gun violence?
You seem to have mistaken me for someone who is an enthusiastic member of a pro-car death cult, working hard to ensure no safety measures are ever introduced and threatening to run people down if they try.
Why aren’t you assassinating tyrants and stopping crime? Stick to the talking points the gun-lobby feeds you, your attempts to think for yourself are terrible.