• Andy@slrpnk.net
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    I think you’ve misread my comment.

    I don’t care if someone carrying a black lives matter flag tells me they support the use of violence against fascists. That’s fine.

    It’s when someone shows up and says that harm is the priority. I have no indication from this photo what OP stands for. And so I can’t help but wonder. Did he show up because he opposes Nazis? Or because he was looking for someone to hurt, and discovered that they were a permitted target? If so, I don’t really care what he does to Nazis, but I can’t trust that person to advance justice at all. Does that make sense?

    Also, again: OP should be careful. If someone like that comes up to you and starts asking if you want to go put your money where your mouth is… they could be setting you up.

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      It’s when someone shows up and says that harm is the priority.

      So basically no one and you’re yelling at clouds

      And so I can’t help but wonder. Did he show up because he opposes Nazis? Or because he was looking for someone to hurt, and discovered that they were a permitted target? If so, I don’t really care what he does to Nazis, but I can’t trust that person to advance justice at all.

      Baseless shit smearing

      Also, again: OP should be careful. If someone like that comes up to you and starts asking if you want to go put your money where your mouth is… they could be setting you up.

      Also not happening, he’s literally all alone on the street.

      Also no one flying a flag like that is going to fall for that kind of a ruse, that flag is niche and a high IQ bar has to be passed to even find it, let alone fly it safely.

      You’re just dredging up shit to try to make him and people like him look bad, and it’s not working.

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        He has sort of a point buried deep in there; He’s just not making it well.

        Partly that any press is good press. Nazis are (still) a small enough subculture that it’s not worth advertising them as the main counterculture.

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          I don’t think it’s small the way a lot of people assume. Way WAY too many people agree with a lot of the shit Nazis say and that’s how they gain power. It happened in Germany; most Nazi supporters were just regular Joes who agreed with their hateful shit. A lot of right wingers are like that.

          Most people have already picked a side on the issue anyway. That’s what makes me worry and those two points together make me sympathize with OP.

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        You’re welcome to disregard everything I say, but please listen to season one of the podcast Alphabet Boys. It walks through, step-by-step, how a tough-talking conman named Micky Windecker collapsed the Denver antifacist scene in 2020 by taking cash from the FBI to try to talk protesters into doing or saying incriminating things and then getting them arrested. If you think you’re too smart to fall for it, that might be a sign you’re not.

        https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alphabet-boys/id1668980612

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          You’re not understanding what I’m saying. Everyone here already knows shit like that happens – I saw it myself with my own two eyes – I am telling you that because of that, everyone who flies that flag therefore implicitly knows not to fall for such tricks, ergo it’s a baseless accusation you are dredging up to make OP and everyone who approves of OP look bad.

          And we’re not falling for it

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            I really hope you’re right, dude. If this is how defensive you get when someone offers you advice to keep you safe, I doubt you are. But I hope I’m wrong.

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        Also no one flying a flag like that is going to fall for that kind of a ruse, that flag is niche and a high IQ bar has to be passed to even find it, let alone fly it safely.

        AND they watched Rick and Morty this morning!