• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    It’s not eugenics, by definition, if it doesn’t favor any specific traits.

    what policy can you introduce that doesn’t favor a specific trait?

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          Literally everyone in the age range to be a potential parent. Perhaps drawn once a year. The winners can have children this year, while the others cannot. If both people in a couple win they can have two or something. Non-heteronormative couples and artificial insemination is fine. If someone wins and chooses not to have children that year or is unable for whatever that’s completely fine.

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              1 year ago

              Those questions also apply to ideas like democracy or public education… but I still think those things are pretty good ideas.

              All systems/ideas have implementation issues in real life. But the whole point of a randomized lottery system is to intentionally not select specific traits as much as possible. And the goal would be to continually improve this hypothetical system, constantly trying to determine if there was a trait being favored and what adjustments are needed to prevent it.

              And even something as simple as enforcing a camp fire ban during a high risk dry spell also has issues with ‘how do you know where everyone is…to see if they are having a campfire’ and ‘what if they don’t know about the ban?’. But the general concept still seems like a good idea to me.

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                1 year ago

                if one country did this it’s genocide against that country. if a pact of countries agree, it’s still genocide against them. and if every government agreed, there are still people’s who will not be effected.

                every way you slice it, it’s genocide. stop trying to figure out how to do genocide the right way.

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                  I’m only suggesting this in an all countries agree environment, otherwise it’s pointless. The other countries with the infinite growth mindset will always out compete the ones with population controls in place. And then take those resources by force. And even if they didn’t, the atmosphere is shared and there is no way around that.

                  And genocide against who exactly? Everyone? There is no group being specifically targeted which is a requirement to meet the definition of genocide.

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                    1 year ago

                    There is no group being specifically targeted which is a requirement to meet the definition of genocide.

                    the group who can be reached by governments.

                    stop trying to figure out how to do genocide the right way and just don’t do genocide at all.

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                    1 year ago

                    in an all countries agree environment,

                    you’re still going to have enclaves of resistance, resulting in a genocide of those who comply.