• denny@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    “When you walk into a classroom, you shouldn’t be able to identify the pupils’ religion just by looking at them,”

    Sir I’m sorry but a abaya doesn’t prove someone is religious. You can wear one if you so please even if you’re not Islam. It’s just a dress.

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      1 year ago

      Sure, and you an atheist could wear a cross and speak a prayer every morning. They just usually don’t and until we can telepathically determine what someone actually believes such insignia are the best way to show support for religion.

      • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        But the abaya is not a religious symbol, it’s literally just a fucking dress like any other, it’s just what they wear typically in that part of the world. It’s like saying that pants are a christian symbol because all Europeans wear pants, and Europe is majority christian.

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          1 year ago

          Do you really think those girls wear abaya inside school not because of religion?

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            I think some of them at least do it as a sign of protest against the French society. It’s normal when you are a teenager to want to defy your teachers and the school system. Of course this is somewhat used by religious preachers to gain power. But these types of law will not make the girls want to wear these clothes less, and may pressure them more into religion. Also, the extreme religious kids don’t usually go to the secular public school, there are religious schools in France. The true response to this issue is more social workers, more information about women’s rights for young girls, actual solutions for women who are attacked or pressured into religion, and a better economic and social integration of these population, regardless of the clothes they are wearing.

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          I’m not an expert on religious clothing, but the Wikipedia article is pretty clear that it is strongly connected to Islam.

          Your comparison is flawed, because while “christian” -> “probably wears pants” is true, the opposite is not. If I tell you I saw someone wearing pants, you would not think about their religion. They could be Hindi, Atheist, etc. But if I tell you I saw a girl in a full body dress, you’d be able to tell their religion pretty accurately.
          Also, we are talking about France. If the Abaya is “what they tyipcally wear in that part of the world” then “all Europeans wear pants” is a contradiction.

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      But pretty much only devout muslim women wear them. Might as well be a hijab at this point.