I’m just showing these comments I saw earlier, which were interesting. Since it is true, that we’ve been hearing that “Russia is cornered”, since the invasion started. I personally just want this shit to end.

These comments are relating to an article from this week.

I wonder if we will ever know what truly happens on the ground (i.e. when it comes to casualties and many other things)

  • Barbariandude [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I think another point of contention here is that I have a fundamentally different understanding of what the word “fascist” means compared to you, which I’m glad you’ve identified and tried to rectify. Maybe we’re just talking about different things. I’ll read that essay when I have the time, and hopefully the next conversation I have with you I’ll be a bit more capable of talking with common terminology.

    • Yeah my definition is more “niche” but I just fundamentally disagree withe philosophical underpinnings of definition like Umberto Eco gave and such. I think it’s clearly a liberal definition lacking in material or dialectical understanding of the world and fails to ever define anything really.

      Regardless, definition itself isnt the basis of the convo. If what I call fascism was called “time-location-based-expropriation-interests”, we could still have the convo. we’re talking about real things regardless of the word. I still think we disagree after that though, unless the essay also convinces you of an evil you didn’t previously understand and results in you agreeing with my analysis or so.

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        I love how Lemmy libs always go “hexbears just harass everyone they disagree with, they never civilly discuss anything” and most of the time I see disagreements on hexbear go this way.

        I want to thank you for a well-thought out and patient explanation of your viewpoint, it’s stuff like this that leads me to wanting to learn more, and which keeps me curious and critical.
        Really A+ posting, thank you for taking the time.

            • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              I prefer the good ol

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              PIGPOOPBALLS

              Over everything else, but sometimes the libs give you a nice tasty bait, one you just gotta nibble on and work hard to clean right off in front of everyone you know

              But genuinely, fine with discussing until someone obviously deserves a PPB, but until I see a slur or a knowing defense of fascism (I give temporary allowances to those who seem confused), I give my time to the posting wars

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                The ppb is good when people are being smuglords or otherwise engaging in bad faith, but ppb shouldn’t be posted in response to people asking questions in earnest. We all learn something everyday, and we’re all susceptible to propaganda, so asking about conflicting data should be supported.
                Being a debatebro is instant :gulag: tho