Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

    • JohnDClayEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      What does your comment mean? Are you just calling me an ape, or are you referencing some other argument/meme?

      • forcequit [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        I’m saying you’re shitting the bed if you think USA joining wwii or perpetuating their current proxy war was done for altruistic reasons

        • JohnDClayEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I’m saying it’s good. I’m not saying it’s done for entirely altruistic reasons. Those are separate things.

          • forcequit [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            14·
            1 year ago

            and I’m saying you’re shitting the bed playing defence for the great satan

            They said

            Name me a time when the US was intentionally and objectively good and don’t include times it was repairing damage it did. I’ll wait. Forever.

            You said

            Fighting WWII and currently supplying lots of stuff to Ukraine.

            y’know what I take it back, i’m calling you an ape

            • JohnDClayEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              I’m saying the US has done horrible things. But saying it’s literally the worst thing possible and never can will or has done anything approaching beneficial pushes you right into embracing even worse authoritarian and cruel governments.

              • forcequit [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                12·
                1 year ago

                BRUH do any of these ‘worse’ authoritarian and cruel governments hold a global hegemony over others?

                The world would be a far more prosperous place if the US were wiped from it

                • JohnDClayEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  They would if they could. Brittany did during the age of sail, Spain before that. China would love to become the only global super power.

                  I think the world would be worse off with Russia or China as the only super powers, as they have even worse democracy than the US, so their governments will can be further out of line with the people.

                  And multiple super powers isn’t very good either, last time during the cold war it caused tones of loss of life from proxi wars. And direct war would be even worse.