It was only a matter of time before an irate tradie threw hands at them.
We don’t get paid to sit in traffic.
What really stands out with these incidents is that all the handwringing against the protests themselves and how they should be ‘doing it the right way’ is total bullshit.
Turns out direct action (up to and including violence) is justified… If you’re delayed getting somewhere in your car by 15 mins. However, nonviolent direct action about our own government dithering on the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced is too much.
Direct action is typically justifiable against the people who have the power to change things
Everyone hates these people because they’re screwing over commuters, if they blocked a National party conference I wouldn’t be so bothered.
Everyone doesn’t hate them. You shouldn’t presume everyone is as hateful and angry as you. Most people in this country are decent and nice.
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The whole purpose of protest is to be disruptive. Protests that don’t disrupt don’t get anything done because you will never hear about it and you won’t know about it. Who is going to report a protest that’s indistinguishable from everyday life?
This is a much more immediate and tangible effect though. Climate change is much more abstract.
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People don’t think like that though.
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Only because there aren’t enough protests. If we had more protests and caused more tradies to be late then they would think that way.
Maybe they should?
You don’t get to decide how people think.
You can change the way they think by protesting. That’s the whole purpose of protesting.
I don’t see a measurable increase in extreme weather events as “abstract”.
One of those things is numbers and statistics, one of them is right in front of you.
ok, you need to look up the definition of abstract, because numbers and statistics are, by their nature, not abstract.
Pedantry, my friend.🥱 You’re missing the point.
15 min late and delaying 5,000 or so people is literally a number and stats
Not when it’s your time being wasted
Besides, the delay caused would have been a lot more than fifteen minutes.
Article literally says started just before 8, taken into custody at 815.
And yes, they got delayed 15 min. A well paid trade makes what - 60-80 and hour? Assault charges are now worth what… $15-20??? Can I now throw some around for a little less than dinner? For making roadworks? Because a meeting runs over by 15 min? There is no way to justify assault for a 15 min wait.
The delay caused by this would have been much worse than fifteen minutes, because this would have had a ripple effect all through rush hour.
And trades charge that much, they probably keep less than half of it as profit.
Are you a child? Because you seem genuinely ignorant of how the world works.
Unfortunately it’s also only a matter of time before climate change gets worse - we’ve already seen what’s happening in the northern hemisphere. Regardless of who is in the road or what work you need to get to, hitting and carrying a person on the front of your car or assault deserves charges, especially as the cops cleared it in ~15 minutes anyway.
Saying that - protesting is also meant to get people on your side rather than just raise awareness. This one didn’t.
If there’s a gofundme for this guy’s legal costs, I’m chipping in. You don’t get to fuck with someone’s livelihood like this.
So you believe 15 minutes of delay justifies assault?
I mean, if you want to go that path carbon emissions is fucking with most of our livelihoods and its also a known, direct correction. Does that mean I can deck every tradie in a ranger?
You’re not really living up to your username.
I have to disagree - calm and patient.
I didn’t see anyone doing jack fucking shit about Brian cult leader Tamaki blocking the motorway, so as far as I can tell, anyone can block the roads and it’s totally fine.
It started with the Covid “checkpoints”, and it’s been downhill from there.
It’s a bit late now, but what are people’s thoughts on whether this is the right community for this? It seems pretty political, even if it’s not about a political party.
For future posts, should things like this go in [email protected] or is [email protected] ok?
Edit: I think the sense I’m getting is that this would be at home in either community.
@Dave @Ilovethebomb blocking the motorway seems like public interest reporting. I guess follow-up reports on trials and mp responses is for politics.
Yes, agreed to put it in politics.
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Everything is political to some extent though, where do you draw the line?
That’s the question 😆. For this one, because they are directly campaigning the government to do something, it seemed political to me. But that’s what I’m seeking opinions on.
This one seems a lot more politically focused than say the article about the company intentionally damaging archeological sites that was posted earlier today.
