If Reddit were to revert it’s changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?

    • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
      24·
      2 years ago

      I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        12·
        2 years ago

        The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.

        • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
          9·
          2 years ago

          Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.

          • dom@lemmy.ca
            2·
            2 years ago

            And the app for android doesn’t seem to let you search for and add new communities. It needs to be done from web browser from what I can tell

      • Communist@beehaw.org
        6·
        2 years ago

        Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.

        That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.

      • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
        6·
        2 years ago

        I don’t think it’s too abstract for people. I think we’re all just really bad at explaining it to non-techies.

        When you move to a city, choosing the neighborhood you want to buy your house in doesn’t stop you from being able to drive around looking at others.

        It ain’t rocket science.

      • mustyOrange@beehaw.org
        2·
        2 years ago

        See my post history if the ui is bothering you. With Sylus browser add on, some very small ui tweaks make the site much easier on the eyes

    • grant 🍞@toast.oooEnglish
      6·
      2 years ago

      after I found out about the fediverse I’ve wondered why not more people use it and why it wasn’t already popular

        • panopticchaosEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          I think that’s true for mastodon, but I suspect it’s going to be way less true for Reddit

          Twitter’s value proposition is roughly “one big giant conversation with everyone” and the federation stuff adds some complexity to that.

          Reddit already acted like a federation. There are ui and discoverability issues but they seem very solvable.

      • phire8@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.

  • ForynGilnith@lemmy.world
    29·
    2 years ago

    For me, they’d have to

    1. Replace /u/spez
    2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
    3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

    I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

  • fossilesque@mander.xyz
    23·
    2 years ago

    Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn’t the first break. Big social is having problems, it’s the natural course of things.

  • kalipike@lemmy.one
    18·
    2 years ago

    The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

    Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

    Of course, there will be people who just don’t care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don’t care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don’t moderate any subreddits, and don’t follow the Internet news.

    I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

  • Anon2971@beehaw.org
    13·
    2 years ago

    I wouldn’t care. The irreversable damage is done.

    Reddit’s handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO’s AMA pretty much ignored all API change criticism (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo’s developer threatening them… They’ve shown their real colours.

    I don’t want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else now. I used Reddit for over a decade and they’ve eradicated my trust in a few days. Even if they reverse the decision, it’d be a PR move to temporarily save their sinking reputation. They clearly don’t care about moderators, users or anyone who actually makes Resdit the place it is (whilst begrudgenly adding bare minimum app exceptions for blind users becsuse they legally have to).

    Its a shame, but at the same time I’m excited to see where things go from here. Reddit’s always had a bit of a quality control problem due to sheer size. Maybe the mass exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

    I’m actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that’d be better, actually.

  • Wolpertinger
    12·
    2 years ago

    The last time reddit pulled some shit, I found tildes and expanded the sites I visited regularly/ semi-regularly (and reducing how much time I spent on reddit). Reddit reverting the latest changes will only minimize the damage on my end, as I’ll be spending time here that I could otherwise be spending over there.

    This stunt reduced the already diminished trust I have for reddit. Having migrated to reddit due to the digg v4 fiasco, over the years, reddit’s decisions have been like digg v4 in slow motion. Each fuckup just causes me to further reduce the amount of time I spend using the site. One of these days, they’ll cross too many of my red lines, and reddit will become completely useless to me.

  • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
    12·
    2 years ago

    I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

  • CookieJarObserver@feddit.de
    12·
    2 years ago

    Im not going back after that AMA they showed their face and it was very very ugly (not that spez looks good in person either)

  • starrox
    10·
    2 years ago

    Reddit is absolutely, 100% certainly not going to step back on these change. They’ve made up their mind long ago.

    But just for the hypothetical: I think they lost a LOT of trust with the two most essential parts of the community - users and mods. Also the company (or rather, its CEO) may have taken significant image damage due to the “AMA” spez did.

    I think business will go on as usual, but the decline will be more and more noticable over time. It will go the way of Digg. Unless of course reddit decides to hire moderation themselves. But we all know they probably wont want do do that. The course seems set to selling the data they have already accumulated.

    • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 years ago

      I doubt reddit will hire mods, they’ve been crying the platform is not profitable, imagine having to pay several millions more, tho reddit without mods is dead.

  • 108beads@beehaw.org
    10·
    2 years ago

    Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don’t go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say “oopsie.” It don’t work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

  • goddamnpipes@lemmy.world
    9·
    2 years ago

    I don’t intend to go back nearly as much as before, even if the changes are reverted (unlikely, imo). A lot of the aspects of Reddit that I didn’t like - but tolerated - are generally not found here, at least so far. While Lemmy still leaves things to be desired, it just feels better to engage with.

    However, I may still add " reddit" to the end of a search query to avoid all the bloat articles that crop up in a search. There’s still a wealth of useful information on Reddit from all those years for even the most niche questions / topics.

  • WarMarshalEmu@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 years ago

    I will admit that I’d keep RiF on my phone just to doomscroll in airports and whatnot. Though I think I’m going to stop my desktop use (90% of my use) of Reddit regardless. The writing is on the wall for old.reddit.