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I never argued it’s as easy as it used to be. I mean, I didn’t buy a house when I was a baby, but my parents did (when I was a baby, not them) and they didn’t have any issues afaik. I surely had to work way harder than they ever did for a home that was arguably worse in quality and I never said otherwise.
The comic to me seems to imply the idea that to buy a home you’d have to do something ridiculous and unreasonable (such as letting your dad die earlier), which isn’t the case. It is more ridiculous and less reasonable than it used to be, I’m not arguing that at all.
Depending on where you live it is almost impossible
Are you somehow magically bound to the place you live right now? My point never was that you could work at walmart for a year slipping tips down your sock until you can reach the downpayment for your malibu villa, if you don’t mind me exaggerating.
Not magically. Financially, socially, practically. Moving is expensive, viable places to live may shred your social connections, assuming your profession exists where you want to go.
Don’t pretend moving is easy on any level. No, you didn’t explicitly say that it was, but you implied it. Hiding behind semantics like you’re doing is very bad faith.
Just FYI I’m not the smart-ass type a poster with whom you have to write those disclaimers at the end for, though I can relate to the need to do so lol. If I have misread something - which I’ve done - I’ve noted it.
Moving isn’t “easy” per se, but it was far from impossible. There are always folk to make friends with, even if you move to the county some other commenter said had “4/5ths of the population afraid of the gays taking their guns”, which I found funny, it leaves with 1/5th of the people who seem nice enough to talk to. I do admit here that I come from a country where a call to someone per year is considered high social activity. Financially, it paled in comparison to the house itself and for all I know could be lumped as an insignificant factor to the cost of the house. Unless you get a friend with a van and some elbow grease which cuts costs substantially. Now the practicality-problems I do admit wholeheartedly I fucking hate packing and unpacking, but you have to do that regardless of how far you’re moving.
You’re partially correct. There are plenty of people for whom it is difficult but not impossible. The finances often seem more insurmountable than they are (said as someone who’s purchased two houses before I was 30. I’m very lucky).
That said, being poor is expensive (See: Vimes’ Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness). Hard to put up a down payment when you can barely afford to eat, which is a reality for a lot of people. One setback (like your shitty car finally giving up) will lock you in wherever you are more often than not. And even for the more fortunate, things like what you just mentioned become a serious reality. It’s all well and good to point at affordable homes in the country, but that 4/5 of the population you mentioned has a habit also being the kind that “don’t like your kind around here” on the subject of the gays (said as a gay man who grew up in such places). Be happy that you only have such a consideration as an annoyance, not something that could kill you. I am not being hyperbolic.
The argument “just move” is often made from a privileged position. Doesn’t make anyone a bad person to not have experienced such hardship, but it does tend to point to a person not realizing the enormity of the task they are glibly asserting as an option. For the people that have, it comes across as arrogant and blind (not necessarily that you are that).
Thanks for the level-headed response my dude.
I am completely aware that nothing is more expensive than being poor. But if I can nitpick just a bit, I would never have my day-to-day life be reliant on a car. I personally don’t own a car because I don’t want to be reliant on it, it costs like a bag of cocks and car-brainism is a disease. I just walk from place to place, it’s cheap as shit and keeps you in shape. And yes, I’ve also lived in the sticks, and yes, I still walked. But on that note yeah, something like an accident that leaves you immobilized for a while or something is quite destructive financially. Though, I’d call that more of an outlier than myself.
And yeah I’m white straight cis myself, the country fellas would prolly like me tbh, and am not really in touch with the realities of the yeehaw-lifestyle. I find it difficult to believe some folk actually care about anyone’s sexuality, but I doubt I’m alone on that. It’s not really an experience I’d feel comfortable commenting further on so I’ll take an L on that, but there must be cheap places to live in the US that don’t necessarily involve being hunted down for your lifestyle preferences.
Happy you’re willing to listen.
I’d assert that you’re the outlier on that one, but am willing to agree to disagree. US infrastructure passionately hates foot traffic most places. This assumes you are in the US, so it may be a bit apples and oranges there.
I’ve found most people really don’t care, or don’t care enough to be violent assholes about it. But the ones that do care have a tendency to be dangerous. And in isolated places like small towns, it’s real easy to follow the herd on things like that if you don’t personally know someone who’s gay. The issue there is more that you can’t really tell that about a place easily when you’re looking so it’s a bit Russian roulette.
Side note, without judgement: I wouldn’t recommend referring to being LGBT+ as a ‘lifestyle preference’. It implies that it’s a choice, which has been a sticking point for a long time. No one chooses to be an oppressed minority.
Sure, if you live in a literal gridmap (of which I’ve seen pics and yeah nah, pass) but even googling “US suburban hellscape” brings multiple pictures of suburbia with alright sidewalks. And I live in the main car-brain purgatory of my country which actively and purposefully fucks over pedestrians but it’s still fine, feet don’t need all that much to get you from place to place. Going offroad is serene when you’re unbound by the limitations of the tire.
For sure, but it takes just one.
Thanks for the heads up mate, translated the phrase from my native language, where I think it’s fine to say, but admittedly I’m now frantically looking into is it really. I hope hatred towards anyone doesn’t seep from my comments. I only and exclusively hate on weebs, commies and furries, which are all the same people really.