Lately I see a lot of calls do have specific instances defederated for a particular subset of reasons:

  • Don’t like their content
  • Dont like their political leaning
  • Dont like their free speech approach
  • General feeling of being offended
  • I want a safe space!
  • This instance if hurting vulnerable people

I personally find each and every one of these arguments invalid. Everybody has the right to live in an echo chamber, but mandating it for everyone else is something that goes a bit too far.

Has humanity really developed into a situation where words and thoughts are more hurtful than sticks and stones?

Edit: Original context https://slrpnk.net/post/554148

Controversial topic, feel free to discuss!

  • FlagonOfMe
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    1 year ago

    Ah there it is, the leftist authoritarian. Whatever Big Brother decides is good for me.

    🤦‍♂️

    Dear Lord, you are just grasping here. Go fight your straw man somewhere else. Each instance is run as a charity. The admin makes the rules. If you don’t like the rules, leave. If I don’t like the rules, I’ll leave. Take your techno-libertarian, infinite free speech bullshit somewhere else. Make your own instance where you are the benevolent dictator where your only rule is “Absolute freedom of speech for all”. Fucking christ…

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      1 year ago

      I never said anything against “the admin makes the rules.” This is about users calling for defederation because “someone offended me on the internet.”

      Looks like you’re exactly that kind of person and as you’ve proven yourself you’re absolutely incapable of engaging in a civil discussion. Feel free to leave… or participate, but if you do, people will disagree with you, no matter if that hurts your precious feelings or not.

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        1 year ago

        I never said anything against “the admin makes the rules.”

        The conversation:

        “The admin makes the rules”

        “You leftist authoritarian!”

        “🤦‍♂️”

        “I never said anything against ‘the admin makes the rules’”

        It’s all there, black and white. Defederation is just another admin rule.

        You think you’re being civil and you say shit like “There is it” and labeling me with a pejorative political affiliation on the basis of saying nothing more than “the admin makes the rules”. I’m calling you out on your bullshit. That’s not something you say in a civil conversation, and you know it. Don’t apologize. Don’t explain to me how it’s civil. Just stop talking.

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          1 year ago

          When you call for an authority to get the bad offense banned from your view it’s a clear call for an authority to fix your life, because you’re not able to. This has nothing to do with an admin (team) having transparent rules about what they do or don’t allow on an instance.

          On a different topic: Civil discussion and disagreement is encouraged, you’re trying to insult and disparage which is something I as moderator will not allow here. So either you follow the rules or I’ll have to start moderating your contributions here.

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              1 year ago

              Do we have a lemmy drama space yet to discuss hilarious goings-on like the ‘pro-free-speech’ controversial topics mod banning the first person to pushback against their name-calling in the very first thread on their new community?

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                1 year ago

                Transparency report: User banned for 14 days to cool down.

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                  1 year ago

                  Banning your own discussion partners on a community IN YOUR OWN THREAD for controversial opinions doesn’t exactly inspire to contribute.

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                  1 year ago

                  You’re banning someone from a community called “Controversial” where the rules state, “This is not a safe place” and “Challenge others opinions and be challenged on your own” because you disagree with them. In a post where you claim that defederating is censorship.

                  I don’t know if you’re trolling with this post or not but that is way too funny!

                  • HasturOPM
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                    1 year ago
                    1. A 14 days cooldown is not a permanent ban.
                    2. Civil discussion is the base of this community, not ad hominems or intents to derail die discussion.
                    3. Moderation is a necessary evil in order to have some basic rules that facilitate free speech. I’m not advocating for pure anarchy.

                    Look up the modlog to check if what I said is true.