edit: now it’s a meme and we can all hug in the comments.

  • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
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    Somebody should make a movie around this message of jaded adults refinding their humanity in an absurd, hyperconsumerist world through the rejection of cynicism and embracing of liking things again, but cleverly disguise it as a movie made to sell plastic dolls to little girls to play on the concept of hyperconsumerism.

    I think this hypothetical movie will be a smashing success in the box office. And probably win the lead actress an Oscar this year.

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      Totally irrelevant to your comment, keep up the strike and hold the line! Assuming you’re the real Margot Robbie and have a prolific platform. I know it’s not fair, especially to the less recognizable members but a lot of other people who are thinking about unionizing are watching the WGA and SAG strikes to see if labour can still win. It’s not just you guys, we’re all with you. Even if they’re too stupid to realize this strike is more important than a new season of NCIS. Labour winning this strike proves that labour isn’t out of the fight and capital hasn’t completely won. Stay strong! Hold the line!

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      I’d like to think even as a jaded adult this isn’t just an impersonation.

      And I assume the Ken dance off scene is an allegory to the obliteration of the ego resulting in self reflection?

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        Ok if you had the opportunity to make Ryan Gosling do a dumb song and dance number you would have done the same thing.

        It’s funny for actors to play against type because it’s unexpected. Like Leslie Nielsen in “Airplane!”, for example.

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      I absolutely agree, I think you ahem that lead actress should win an Oscar.

      But I think it’s important that we don’t let enjoying things become synonymous with liking (mindless purchasing) the corporate products that are being sold to us at a breakneck pace.

      What ways do we have to still create our own ways to have fun? How can we make our own “weird barbies”?

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        The difference is that you should enjoy things not because nothing matters in this world (that would be hedonism.), but because the world matters to you, and you will fight to make it better.

        There comes a point in everybody’s life where they are faced with their own mortality and finally figure out what they are meant to do. None of us will be here forever, so, I think we should use our short time on this Earth to fight for a world where everyone is free to find their way in life, and be themselves again.

        Kinda vague, but everyone is different, so, everyone will have to figure it out on their own.

      • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Approximately 99% of stuff that gets posted here are not memes. I think you’re fighting a losing battle here.

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            You know I was looking at some of the architecture down town today and thought to myself, “just think, none of this would be possible if there wasn’t someone critiquing mud huts 10000 years ago.”

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      Can we, without relentlessly criticizing, let people have their un-funny, non-memes and screenshots and whatever little harmless things in which they’ve managed to find a tiny shriveled flower of joy?

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        I would say a Twitter post isn’t one. At least scribble on an image of some.kind.

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        IMHO an idea that spreads person to person, not just PSAs that are unlikely to be shared further.

        So the avocado face on the bottom right of this image IS a meme. And if this Tweet turns into a copypasta, then it’s a meme.

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          I’ve seen this particular tweet like a dozen times now, so it’s definitely spread far and wide. Some people only think of image macros as memes, but yes the broader definition I’ve seen is essentially a viral concept.

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      Could we, without relentlessly criticizing, let people have… whatever little harmless things in which they’ve managed to find a tiny shriveled flower of joy?

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      It’s being spread through communication - It’s a meme. Memes don’t have to be funny.

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      You’re 100% right. But I’ve seen comics and tweets do well here, so this post isn’t going against the norm

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      completely agree. people can have their decorations whenever and whatever else their heart desires, but i draw the line at christmas music

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    I don’t mind people putting up decorations early, it’s when stores swap out their seasonal stock early that triggers me

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      Last year local Home Depot started clearancing out Halloween decorations to make room for Christmas stuff in September.

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      Halloween is the only good holiday. It is the only one that maintains any connection to it’s pre modern roots. It is about giving candy to children for free fuck capitlaism. It is about enjoying everything society says is wrong. It requires some creativity in ways most people don’t get to experience the rest of the year. It invites experimentation and self expression.

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        Halloween is still pretty capitalistic. You have to buy the candy you are handing out, and are encouraged to purchase decorations and make your home thematic to the season

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        Have you just never been to a club on halloween? Halloween is, by no stretch of the imagination, free from capitalist endeavors.

        Those between 18 and 34 participate at the highest rate, and they end up spending the most on their costumes (capitalism).

        You can like Halloween all you want, don’t kid yourself into believing that it’s somehow “pure”

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    Letting go of the part of you that judges other people is important. It hurts, because that is one of the few avenues of control we can experience in our lives alienated by capitlaism.

    Letting your self be free of those childish emotions and learning to replace them with love for your fellows is the path towards true happiness however. That is one of those weird tricks the government doesn’t want you to know. Except it is real and it works. The more negative you are about other people the more negativity you experience and the more treats you need to buy to survive. The heart of every true revolutionary is full of love.

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    I don’t criticize people for enjoying those things, I criticize the corporations for relentlessly monetizing those things, making them insufferable and sucking all the enjoyment out of them for money.

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      I mean a lot of hexbear, and Lemmy in general, is like that. Just shitting on other people’s happiness over the most trivial of things, bringing out 500 reasons why thing sucks. And it’s done in a hypocritical manner too, if you were to apply their own logic to things they liked and criticise it, they’d get really angry or give you that fake “I don’t care” attitude that everyone can see through. This happens with every discussion about “treats” on hexbear in particular.

      a little meme

      dean-smile Me shitting on other people’s “treats”

      dean-frown Other people shitting on my “treats”

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      You’re welcome to dislike something, but that doesn’t mean you need to discourage someone else from liking that thing. You can share an opinion without making it sound like it’s a sin against nature to disagree with that opinion.

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        Then how else am I supposed to feel superior compared to everyone else if I don’t impose my standards on them? I’m just trying to help them. It’s like you want to live in a world where people don’t know they’re loosers. That’s dumb, you’re dumb. /s

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          Nor did I elect you king of what I’m allowed to enjoy. Go ahead and police people’s thoughts if you insist, but don’t expect to be included by people you willfully offend.

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            Go ahead and police people’s thoughts if you insist, but don’t expect to be included by people you willfully offend.

            I will, and you can’t exclude me lmao. Deal with it, you have to deal with critiques and disagreements, how terrible for you

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            people you willfully offend.

            Lmao anyone offended because someone criticised their latest marvel slop or videogame deserves to be their head shoved in a toilet.

        • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Criticizing things is fine but there is in fact a line where you become the asshole for doing it too hard or in a bad faith way. Or targeting individual people (particularly minors). The PSL thing is a good example because while we can criticize the comedication of it, some of the discourse around it is really misogynistic.

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    The problem here is that all of these people have turned their consumer choices into their identities and thus they feel personally attacked whenever they hear criticism of the products they consume.

    It’s incredibly unhealthy and something everyone should work to weed out of their mindset if they want to grow as a person instead of being perpetually unhappy because others criticising things isn’t going anywhere.

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    You had me until the too early decorations. The other things don’t take away my joy. That does.

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      Also harm isn’t why people care. Its the erosion of well defined seasons in order to push corporate products on us and in the end we get fucked up melding of events like remembrance day while people are preoccupied trying to get Christmas shopping in.

      It turns what was once cultural events into corporate buy shit quarters. Because its easier for Walmart to sell Christmas stuff in October then wait until it’s the season.

      Its a loss and erosion of an important shared culture in favor of only corporate sponsored ones.

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    Serious.

    If you are seriously annoyed by any of these things, then it should be a reminder of how unburdened and care free your life is that such a thing actually bugs you, and spark a sense of pride and contentment instead.

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      My first thought was “It’s never too early for Halloween”. I can understand hating early Christmas decorations, because Christmas is an all-out capitalist fuckfest with irritating jingles. But who hates Halloween?

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        Honestly it’s probably in part BECAUSE OF the damn early Christmas decorations that Halloween stuff has been expanding earlier into the fall/summer. Because by mid October you have to wade through a sea of holly jolly bullshit to get to it. Anyone with an issue with the early Halloween stuff, go take it up with Christmas for trying to annex October and not staying on their fucking side of the 31st.

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          people like christmas and november sucks. Christmas has expanded because everyone wanted it to. Halloween sucks as a holiday and frankly October would be better if it was Christmas

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              I guess this is one of those YMMW situations. I’m sure Halloween can be fun and cool in America but outside of America it really sucks.

              Where I’m from Halloween was not a thing until ten or fifteen years ago when toy stores decided they wanted to use the opportunity to market ugly plastic decorations and shitty costumes. There’s none of the cultural background that gives celebrations like this meaning and it all feels fake, like people are pretending to be Americans rather than taking part in a genuine celebration.

              Celebrating Halloween as a non-American also has a tiresome aspect of cultural imperialism in it. Adopting stuff from other cultures is fine but why does it have to be stuff from burgerland every single time? Why can’t we do Dias de los muertos or Chinese New year instead?

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                Ah, yeah, I should say my opinion is entirely based around my experience as an American. It’s pretty deeply ingrained here- I mean imagine telling an American that they have to tolerate children running around at 9pm in the dark, they can’t drive their cars around because the streets are clogged with those children and furthermore, they need to stock up on candy because they will be giving it away to the kids.

                And there is a culture tradition of vandalizing the homes of people who are stingy about the candy.

                If it were new here it’d never even catch on, just like public libraries.

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              it’s just a bit underwhelming. Kids knock on your door and you watch a scary movie. You don’t even get a day off and it’s not an all day thing it’s just early night

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                Yeah but you get to dress your kid up as a velociraptor or a ghost buster or something and then interact with people who live near you in a friendly way which doesn’t exist outside of Halloween in this atomized hellscape. Plus it’s way more than one day, I’m putting giant spiders all over my place for at least a month. The webs are hell to take down so I might even leave em up through November out of laziness lol

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            I mean you’re entitled to your opinion but surely this whole thread is evidence to the fact that people also enjoy Halloween. Halloween extending earlier doesn’t really affect anything, there’s not much in the way of holidays in September or hell, even August. Nobody is gonna claim pumpkins and candy are ruining Labor Day. Whereas beyond a certain point, Christmas starts to steamroll other holidays like some sort of tinsel covered Akira. I don’t think it’s unfair to want to enjoy Halloween on it’s own without being inundated with Mariah Carey.

            Also we gotta put the line somewhere before it just invades the whole bloody year. You’ve got most of two freaking months already.