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    This is hilarious tbh. Please don’t get me wrong, I really feel for the mods who put so much time and energy into the sub (all subs for that matter). It sucks.

    But god, watching reddit implode feels so fucking good. Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron, and it’s nice to see his web site fall from grace so publicly.

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        I don’t think it will. They will go with the “single greatest resource for AI data” angle and make bank. They aren’t ignoring this backlash just to kill some apps.

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          Yeah, which is precisely why it’s important to ruin the product with random spam, racism, overly sexual comments, lorem ipsum and for good measure some fetish porn and gore images.

          Wasn’t Microsoft training an AI from Twitter and it basically turned into the aforementioned garbage?

          I doubt that companies would enjoy to train their models on a foul dataset filled with nonsense, hatred, porn and gore.

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            I guess this could be a way to finally create that genocidal AI everybody keeps promising us is definately coming.

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        at least I hope so.

        I don’t think it will.

        Sorry for refusing to participate in this extremely gay “fuck u/spez!” circlejerk, but at this point it seems clear that they won.

        Oh, well. Lemmy works just fine. Can we move on now?

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          Dopamine-addled zoomers when something takes more than 5 seconds to happen:

          it’ll never happen!

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            People on the Internet who refuse to consider outcomes they don’t want to be true:

            He’s a Zoomer! He’s dumb!

            Just for the record:

            1. I’m a Millenial

            2. If Reddit’s IPO fails, great! You won’t see me complaining.

            I don’t see it failing, but if it does, I’ll happily be wrong.

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          They’re shooting themselves in the face, but the gun won’t go off until Friday. They’re kicking out everyone who is addicted to the site enough to install a third party app for it. I really hope that RIF and Apollo redirect people to Lemmy after this weekend.

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            Oh man, the real Armageddon’s gonna start when the 3PAs die. No more Reddit for me afterwards.

            Christian announcing Reddit for Lemmy/Kbin would be icing on the cake, but I just don’t see that happening.

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          AOL and Yahoo still exists and their CEO didn’t make a sobbing tiktok video inside their car, which means they won!

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          Downvoted only for your shitty use of the term “gay”. Everything else I agree with.

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      Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron

      Is he really abrasive? I haven’t seen him say anything outside of what I’d expect an exec of a company to say.

      Is he really a moron? Dude is walking away with a lot of zeros in his bank account. From what I can tell, it sounds like he’s pretty happy with the outcome.

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          Right.

          People aren’t smart because they stumbled into a handful of zeros. Everyone blows Musk but he was just born into blood diamond money. He didn’t actually do anything. Neither did Spez, he just makes money off other people’s content.

          Strip all these CEOs of their extra zeros, strip them of their user generated content, then ask them to rebuild their wealth by actually providing a good or service and watch them flop.

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            See, that’s the thing. I’m not a fan of Musk or Spez, and I never claimed to be.

            Ultimately I think Elon Musk gets a ludicrous amount of attention.

            My whole point was that (a) it seems like Spez doesn’t care, which really begs the question of how much energy this is worth investing in and (b) people in his position often get what they want (money) because they have to deal with this exact kind of situation.

            If Reddit dies, it dies, and I’ll consider myself wrong. If Spez totally gets owned and loses, great!

            Either way, I think it’s ok to move on.

            I also wouldn’t be surprised if they expected this reaction.

            Anyway, Lemmy is fine; it’s a nice alternative. I’d rather just let Reddit go in whatever direction it ends up going in than keep getting angry about it.

            I’m glad that there is an alternative. Maybe we can try and learn from Reddit and do what we can to prevent Lemmy from going in that direction, yeah?

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          Right-wing brainrot, the rich have to be successful, otherwise why were they licking those boots?

          • They successfully navigated a system that was more likely than not highly stacked in their favor thanks to their rich family and the other people like them that they know. They then horde all the wealth while other people who can’t get their teeth fixed or decent medical treatment applaud them from the slums. It’s pretty depressing how this is all considered normal thanks to right-wing influence on social media.

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          God, I’m so tired of seeing people deduce false conclusions from statements they don’t want to hear.

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        is he really abrasive?

        Spez is a liar, a cheat and a habitual editor of comments that insult him. He’s also incredibly petty and rude.

        is he really a moron?

        He hired 2,000 employees to run a site like Reddit, has effectively destroyed the website’s image and the ongoing protests have revealed to people why it’s such a shitty investment.

        His riches are all luck, not brains; he can’t even sell one of the most visited sites in the world without gutting it first.

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          Let’s not forget that Daddy Elon is his biggest hero and Reddit could become a shit show like Twitter.

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            Yeah, let’s not forget that he’s a Musk fanboy and probably believes all the shit he said about Twitter.

            He’s also a doomsday prepper who believes he’ll be some sort of ‘leader’

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          “Sure, we may have killed the planet but for a beautiful moment in time, we created a lot of value for our shareholders”

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        I haven’t seen him say anything outside of what I’d expect an exec of a company to say.

        Then you really haven’t been paying any attention whatsoever.

        For example, do you honestly expect a company exec, on the eve of an IPO, to tell a news reporter “We’ve never made any profit” on the site that’s been billed as “the front page of the internet” for at least a decade, with hundreds of millions of users? That’s a smart executive business move to you?

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        So one individual’s bank account is more valuable than a community for millions world wide?

        Death of the Commons in deed indeed.

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          So one individual’s bank account is more valuable than a community for millions world wide?

          Lol, no. Where did I even insinuate that?

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            By justifing Spez’s actions as smart.

            They are smart for his bank account.

            They are not smart for the future of reddit and its users. Not to mention the effect of destroying the knowledge transfer and denying people the curated resources to improve their lives.

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              By justifing Spez’s actions as smart.

              Where am I justifying what he’s done, though.

              I’m not saying his actions are smart. I’m saying they’re not “dumb”. I’m saying they’re practically expected.

              That’s the environment we’re working with at the moment.

              He made a play that got him what he wanted at the expense of the interests of Reddit’s users.

              So did Zuckerberg with Facebook. So did Tim Cook with Apple.

              This is nothing new - it’s the same old, battered story of a CEO fucking over its users for their own gain as well as the gain of their shareholders.

              They do not care about long term outcomes. They can afford to not care. They do not give a fuck about anything that you give a fuck about, and they definitely don’t play by the rules you play by.

              Calling them “dumb” is like throwing a rock at a killer robot who’s out to destroy you: not only does it do absolutely fucking nothing, you just spent energy and time that went nowhere.

              And then you have the people telling the rock throwers not to do that, but then the rock throwers flip out and throw rocks at them.

              The idea that forcing subs to go “dark” is going to reverse anything is also ludicrous.

              They can do whatever the fuck they want with Reddit, and they have their reasons (good or bad, for better or worse).

              They also don’t care what you have to say about it, because at this point, your interests are fundamentally at odds with theirs.