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    Wait, the mod removed the option to set a gender in the character editor? Why don’t these people just make a male character and be done with it?

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      Because it’s not actually about the pronouns. These people aren’t actually angry about pronouns.

      They’re angry about trans and non-binary people. They’re angry that people are growing to accept these people, who they do not think should be accepted. They are angry that a group they don’t think is normal, is being accepted as normal.

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        I don’t think it’s even about that, they’re angry because the want to be angry. The why doesn’t matter, if the current right wing outrage du-jour had been… I dunno, left handed people rather than trans people, you’d see all the same people working themselves into a screaming tantrum if a game or movie had a left handed person in it.

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          For sure. And when there’s not enough people focused on trans people they’ll shift their focus to some other marginalized group to harass.

          These limp dicked losers have literally nothing better to do but jerk each other off in their seedy racist forums and message boards.

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            Who the hell are you to say that I hate black and gay people? You’re overgeneralizing a group, how much different are you in this case? Stop with that man, this is why we can’t have actual debates.

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          Steam forums are the absolute bottom of the barrel for game discussion, maybe tied with 4chan.

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        Let’s roll it back a bit. There’s a bit of a difference between “accepted” and “tolerated”. For the most part, the trans community is merely tolerated by the majority of the country.

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          I don’t know what the point of your comment is.

          Trans and non-binary people are becoming more accepted as normal over time. The people screaming about pronouns don’t actually care about pronouns, they oppose that gradually growing acceptance.

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        It’s not “about trans and non-binary people,” it’s about the injection of identity politics into video games. The removal of the mod shows that activist fiat is necessary to present the illusion that people buy into gender ideology.

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          The existence of trans and nonbinary people is not an injection of identity politics into video games. The fact that they exist and a video game is acknowledging their existence is not political.

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            No no no, you have to break their brains.

            Ahem:

            White people in a video game is political. Statistically, the default is Han.

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              You just but I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened.

              Conservatives have a long running feud with the sciences.

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              I thought 2+2=4 was anti-woke? Wasn’t there a whole weird Twitter drama thing a couple of years ago where 2+2=4 was considered the racist side?

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          did a bot write this? what are you even trying to say?

          Are you one of those people that thinks anything that’s not straight cis white is “identify politics”? That anything that isn’t your world view is “political”? If so, please go fuck yourself. If not, I have no idea what you’re on about.

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            Not a bot; just a bigot. If you scroll to the very bottom, a good 30% of the total comments are this guy digging a hole trying to prove it’s “woke” society that’s the problem and not him.

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                It got worse:

                The only thing left to fight for is the right to indoctrinate very young school children into gender ideology and show them, graphically, how to be gay.

                Either a troll, or too far gone to help.

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                  Teaching children how to be gay, sure.

                  Hey, Children. If you like somebody and they like you back, don’t worry about which gender you think you belong to.

                  People can love people no matter if they are the same gender or not.

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          Pronouns, gender, genitals, etc. in player-character customization are just yet another option for someone to tailor their gameplay to whatever experience they want.

          The only identity politics comes from the people politicizing it.

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          “Identity politics” always seems to mean “I am upset that different people exist.”

          This is a nothing option in a video game. Nobody’s rubbing your nose in it. It doesn’t affect you, at all, but it’s a neat little extra for other people. Do you give a shit about other people? Or does the mere possibility of anyone distinct from you, the protagonist of reality, fill you with emotions you can’t handle? There’s no third option, here. It’s a checkbox for how NPCs choose voice lines, in exactly the same way they’ve done for decades. It’s just separate now.

          But of course one glance at your profile shows you’re an unapologetic bigot, and what you mean by “gEnDeR iDeOlOgY” is exactly what every other diet Nazi means by it: you hate queer people, and you want it to be their fault.

          Out.

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          Yeah, having that “he/she/they” toggle and calling sex “body type 1 and 2” instead of male/female sure is political. You know when it became political? When people saw them and went “REEEEEEEEEEEEE” because they’re bigoted dumbfucks.

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          ,“Identity politics” in this case meaning “trans and non-binary people exist and are trans or non-binary respectively”.

          The removal of the mod shows that activist fiat is necessary to present the illusion that people buy into gender ideology

          Bullcrap. It shows nothing of the sort. It shows nothing more than that NexusMods doesn’t feel like hosting assholes.

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          It’s only politics because people go out of their way to oppress them. There’s nothing to be political about if people are allowed to be who they are.

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          The fact that you unironically used the term 'gender ideology ’ proves that you are, in fact, a bigoted little shit.

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      They need to force their views on others. If anyone believes what they believe, then they are suddenly just like everyone else instead of the bigot they know they are deep down

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        They aren’t really forcing their views on anyone though, they’re just jacking themselves off. No nonconforming person is going to download this and inflict it on themselves, and they have no reason to use it themselves unless they’re just really closeted and lack the will to not express their own nonconformity. It can literally only exist to rile people up who sought out the mod specifically, which includes only them.

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          If they weren’t trying to force their views on others they’d just make their character a guy and move on. They go through the trouble of coding this mod to push their agenda on others.

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            What I’m trying to say though is that most of them just do make their character a guy and move on. They don’t need the mod and the people who they think do need it aren’t going to install it. It’s not just a transparent attempt to ignite culture war arguments online, but it’s a stupid and ineffective one.

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              The point of the mod is not to change something in game, its to appear in the list of mods and remind some people that they are hated and bigots will never stop hating them.

              Its a weird “I was here, and I hated x people”.

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                I have trouble imagining enough people wanting to download a mod to do this to get it to appear on anything but the most recent releases list, and to only be on that list long enough for some other mods to get released.

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                  Well, the type of person that would do this wouldnt be opposed to spoofing the number as well. And they can just keep reuploading the mod so it’s always appearing in the list.

                  The point is, their ineffective methods still worked a little. Ruining someone’s day, hour or even minute is validation enough

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            Apparently nexus mods has some sort of ad sharing with mod makers. Could be a grift. Grift is popular among right wingers, possibly because they are on a fundamental level stupid.

            Some grifter makes an anti “woke” mod that probably took 5 minutes. A bunch of stupid chuds download it to pwn the libs. Grifter makes money. Chuds feel good about their shitty lives.

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        How does installing a mod on a single player game force views on anyone?

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          Insisting that Nexus Mods should host this bigoted mod is the losers who walk in fear of “woke culture” trying to enforce their bigoted views on the rest of the world. The assholes are still free to install that mod but Nexus Mods is just as free to not host that trash.

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          I can think of one: a parent who installs this before letting their child play it to enforce their culture of hatred within their house.

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      The crazy thing is how hysterical they’re being over something you can fail to even notice is there. It gave me male pronouns as I choose the male body type, and the button prompt to change it is hidden way down at the bottom of the screen. It’s literally on screen for a few seconds and then never mentioned again in a game with hundreds of hours gameplay.

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        Yeah, I’d see reaction videos before I played, and I honestly couldn’t find how to change my pronouns for a good 30 seconds.

        God, Bethesda sucks at UI.

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          Yeah, it took me ages to realise the prompt was at the bottom of the screen, I didn’t even want to change them, I was just wondering why it set off such a wobbler with the bald bloke.

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      Does it matter? I have a mod to improve blood splatter, does murder meet your approval?

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        If someone made a “killing Jews” mod it wouldn’t be allowed either.

        Nazis aren’t welcome.