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      I like IPAs and I’m secure enough to not be bothered by the mockery my basic brothers and I face online.

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        My perspective is that the “basic” people can’t wait to bring up how much they despise IPAs and without a single exception the reason is always “they’re just SO hoppy!!!”

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          Well given that they’re the most hoppy of the common types of beer, that reason for not liking them is hardly surprising or in any way illegitimate 🤷

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            Which is exactly why I think it’s an unnecessary and boring thing to talk about. If someone asks them, they should just say no I don’t like it. Instead they volunteer the information and emphatically state the reason as though it’s a surprise or unique in some way

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              They’re probably just trying to be helpful, you know… You sound very aggravated about them simply stating a preference and the reason for said preference.

              If someone were for example to offer you an overly sweet type of confection or cake, wouldn’t you similarly answer “no thanks, too sweet for my taste?”

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                No one is offering them an IPA or asking their opinion. You seem like maybe you’re one of these people? Since you’re ignoring what I wrote. They volunteer the information and then harp on it. I have heard this since I started drinking IPAs in like 2012. Ok we get it, you all hate my beer. I’m not talking shit about their awful sour beers or whatever, I keep it to myself unless asked.

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                  Nope, I’m not “one of those”. While I too don’t like beers to be too hoppy, it’s not something I go out of my way to tell people like some crazed stereotypical vegan 🤷

                  I can see how that would get annoying in the long run though and I’m 💯 with you on sour beers lol. Second worst beer I ever tasted was a gose and the worst wasn’t an IPA either lol

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            But of the near-infinite number of things a person dislikes, they only meme about a couple. The Internet loves an easy target…

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              of the near-infinite number of things a person dislikes, they only meme about a couple

              only meme about a couple

              a couple

              Are you NEW? 🤦

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          I heard a real-world explanation about why IPAs are the most common and commonly-sought craft beer. Half the reasons are unflattering, but a few are valid.

          1. They’re harder to fuck up because the Hops covers every damn thing and is so forgiving. Ever heard a cooking show talk about how hard a perfect Filet Mignon is because you can’t hide behind anything and everyone knows what it should taste like? Ditto with a good red ale or even pilsner.
          2. Similarly, nobody is known for their signature Filet Mignon because (within reason) a filet is a filet. Ditto with most types of beers. IPAs give opportunity for a lot more variety. Which is why you have more breweries making them, and then more people consuming them. I go out of my way to find non-MGP whiskey because MGP whiskies all taste the damn same to me, and I usually find a couple unique bottles every year. I can respect someone who wants to try a totally new beer every week and just fall back on a few faves.
          3. Related again to #2. Beyond being “SO hoppy”, IPAs have more unique flavor profiles than all other beers combined. Different hops can net you notes of orange, lemon, grapefruit, or notes of the pith of one of those, or notes of the rind of one of those. Different amounts or processing of hops can give you different intensities of those. That’s a lot of flavor profiles from sweet to sour to bitter, all in the same category.

          So I’m “basic” nowadays re: beer, and I despise IPAs because I literally cannot stand the bitter&pithy ones (esp Grapefruit Pith), and there’s no easy way to know what an IPA will taste like till you’ve paid for it and cracked it open. I also get reflux and nothing blows that shit out of the water like an IPA. There’s a hops shop down the street from me, but if I’m going to brew a beer (super rare, I usually make whiskey or mead) it’s gonna be something will a chill flavor profile.

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            there’s no way to know what an IPA will taste like before you crack it open

            That’s why I like brewers that publish their hops. I’m the opposite of you, I live for the citrusy, fruity type of hops and despise the more traditional floral/piney strains. If I see simcoe on the bill I’ll go to bed sober, but if you’ve got Willamette or Cascade I’ll make tea from them.

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            Stands for India Pale Ale. i was originally told they used to brew stronger beer to make it last the long trip to India before refrigeration was a thing.

            So it tends to be higher ABV and more bitter or hoppy to go with the higher alcohol content.

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              The hop part is a bit more interesting. The strong beers of the time weren’t enough to keep the beer from getting infected. However, hops are a natural preservative. The oils have antibiotic properties. They were initially used as a preservative for weak British ales and the taste was a side effect but not necessarily the desired effect. When they had trouble shipping their beers across the world, they would pack the beer full of hops so it would make the trip. Eventually, Brits in India developed a taste for the bitter beer that was shipped to them and a beer style was born.

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                Thanks, I knew I was missing something. It’s been probably 10 years since I did a brewery tour that actually taught anything.

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      I don’t care what other people drink. In fact I love it when people show me their favorite drinks. Even if I don’t like it I enjoy the experience of something new. I get bored very easily.

      That being said, I moved to the Pacific Northwest a few years ago and it seems like local breweries only make IPAs. They’ll have like eight local or inhouse brews and 7 will be IPAs. I just miss the variety I used to be able to find in other parts of the country. It also seems a little lazy and uncreative on the brewery’s side.

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    I’m German. I look down upon these pesants. The best beer is dark and unfiltered. Anything else cannot compare.

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      I’ve had your beer while in your country. Much respect and all given the history and contributions to beer over all, but after a week…it got boring.

      I’m happy to be a peasant with never ending variety of styles and variations within styles without being hamstrung by some unimaginative and restrictive laws.

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        There’s variety too, you just didn’t get to see it during your stay. The laws are now much more liberal than they used to be.

        But yeah, when you go to a basic place, many German beers have a similar character I would say. Normally there’s just the difference between light, dark, red, weizen and then the mixed ones.

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      I never liked beer until I tried it in Germany. I’m here now on vacation, a Radler is probably my preference just for sweet tooth but even the basics go down nicely.

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      Dark beer is for winter and autumn. IPA is for spring, summer, and not going off on a sea voyage to the colonies.

      Edit: also when I was in Germany I mostly drank white wine. Germany is the only country that produces palatable white wine, whereas good beer can be had in many countries.

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        Germany is the only country that produces palatable white wine

        Wow wow wow, take it easy there, them are some fighting words.

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    Vegans, PSL girls, IPA guys, furries, and anime nerds seem to be the most popular targets for boring, basic memes.

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    I don’t get it.

    I don’t even like IPAs all that much.

    But like… Pumpkin Spice is a seasonal artificial flavor that is I think annoying to people because it’s made its way into everything from marshmallows to crackers to milk.

    IPA is a style of beer. That’s it.

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      IPAs don’t even taste the same, people just think of the (ex: Sierra Nevada) hoppy taste and assume it’s all like that.

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      I don’t know if it’s like this where you are, but in Scandinavia if you like beer but don’t like IPAs, you’re shit out of luck for like the last five years at least. It has completely taken over the beer aisles at like 70 % of the offering. As someone who hates that bitter taste with a passion, the fact that it makes the selection of beers that I enjoy so much smaller, means it’s akin to how I imagine pumpkin spice taking over in the US during fall, except it isn’t just seasonal.

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        That sucks. It was like that here in the US about 5 years ago with IPAs. Every micro brewery made like 10 IPAs and nothing else. They are still the most prevalent style but there is a noticeable shift toward making lagers or less hoppy ales the past few years and it’s been a really nice change.

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          I hope we’ll see that soon as well. I’ve been mostly into malty, full-bodied varieties, and recently also sour beers and gose. Those have started to appear in stores, but not reliably. It feels like they’re testing the waters, and are cycling through brands quickly, so once you find a favorite, it’s already gone. Hopefully it’ll stabilize with a decent selection of all types.

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      They’re both popular, and something that you can just not buy if you don’t like them, but people like to complain about because they see the popular thing around, and it bothers them.

      Also, pumpkin spice doesn’t have to be artificial. It’s just the spices found in pumpkin pie. It’s usually just cinnamon, clove, nutmeg and ginger.

      It can be artificial, but it’s like complaining that “apple” is a seasonal artificial flavor.

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    I’m German too, while I usually prefer southern german beer with a strong wheat, malt and yeast flavour I also occasionally like to explore other flavours like IPA or more exotic ones from different countries. I mean, drink what you like or don’t drink at all (which might be better, health-wise). Gates open, come on in.

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          Never said it was anything special. But it’s largely available (even in neighbor countries) and I do confirm everyone feels good after three of them ;)

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    if it isnt brewed in a monestary in belgium whats even the point #notlikeotherguys

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      It can be quickly summarized to the line in the article, “marketers have an insatiable appetite for turning human enjoyment into target-based profit”. Couple that with the fact that females tend to receive more ridicule for their consumption habits, and you’ve got this article.

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    Something I should mention: I do like IPAs (not only IPA but they are tasty) and can find all 3 of the style of shirt in this weird AI looking stock image in my closet.

    Soooooo…