• Elektrobank@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    That way only union members get fair pay. Most people dont have a union to join. More name calling for suggesting fixing the root of the problem? Good talk.

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      1 year ago

      I would just like to point out that when unions get what they ask for, non union jobs in the same sector reap those benefits as well.

      If non union jobs want to employ people they need to be competitive, which raises the wages for non union jobs.

      There is plenty of evidence and research on this topic.

      I won’t call you names but you do appear to be naive on the topic, so I suggest you do some reading on the subject and refrain from posting what you believe is fact.

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        1 year ago

        Better labor laws also lead to better jobs. There’s plenty of evidence on that topic. If unions get us there, go unions. So far, they haven’t.

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          Do you know how we got to a 5 day / 40 hour work week? Unions.

          Every good thing that you currently have protecting you at work is because of unions. Unions drive laws.

          I wasn’t sure if you were just ignorant to the history or you’re just a anti union troll.

          Either way, what you’re spouting is incorrect and I again implore you to do some fucking research because at this point you are only here to speak misinformation.

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            1 year ago

            I work 6 days a week, 10 hour days.

            My insurance sucks, I have no sick time, no retirement, only a couple holidays a year

            If labor laws were improved, my life would improve

            If labor laws were improved, every union members life would improve

            What the fuck are you people fighting for if its not an improvement in labor laws?

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              They are but those labour laws are brought up BECAUSE OF UNIONS. You do not get favourable labour laws without unions pushing for them.

              You have it shitty right now because American corporations buy legislation. Unions are the best defence against that.

              Unions are necessary for labour laws that benefit the workers. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Nobody is going to pass legislation making your labour more profitable for you unless there is an entity that holds some power (unions) holding them accountable to do so.

              Again, stop trying to change minds here. You are naive and ignorant to this subject.

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                1 year ago

                So if I had said:

                (Improved) labor laws (obtained through the means of a union) fixes this

                Would we be high fiving right now? You must be one of those union guys that stands around and does nothing cause you paid your dues and are untouchable. You dont want workers rights, you want a free ride

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      1 year ago

      Most people dont have a union to join.

      All the more reason to try and unionize their non-union job. The IWW will gladly help you unionize with your coworkers.

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        I’m fortunate to live in a state with better laws than federal, and have a marketable skill anyways. I’d love some more vacation/sick days and decent health care, but that’s america. Definitely no unions happening where I work.